Topic: Introduction to Japanese history
+Anonymous A — 6 months ago #67,448
So basically, in the olden days Japan was like, "We are Asians. We only focus inwardly because we have ancient Asian wisdom."
Then Europe and America (the white people) were like, "Hey Japan! Trade with us! Not trading with the world is some commie shit! You need to open your borders or we’re sending in our war ships!"
Then Japan was like, "Fine, we will accept foreigners because we have no choice. But we are going to modernize our country to compete with western powers, and we are going to reform our religion to make it more like Christianity which worships one man above everything."
Then in World War One, Japan was like, "Hey England! You have a monarchy, we have a monarchy, you have a parliament, we have a parliament, you have an empire, we wish we had an empire, we should totally team up!"
Then Japan did that and they got together and were like, "Hey these white colonizers, these British, these crazy white people taking over Asia that think we’re racially inferior, I think these white people might be racist against us Japanese. The British don’t like the Germans and the Italians for some reason, what if we ally with those guys, the underdogs in Europe with tiny empires, and we prove to the world that Japanese people are worthy of respect. Here’s how we’re going to prove to white people to stop being racist against Asians: we’re going to team up with white supremacists in Nazi Germany who would burn us all in concentration camps if they had the chance, let’s invade China and Korea, and let’s kill millions of other Asians to stop British colonialism and prove that Asians are just as smart as white people because we can build killing machines too!"
Then America was like, "No actually you have no natural resources, all of your oil is imported so we’re going to sanction 90% of all your oil."
Then Japan attacked America and America was like, "No way this is crazy this was unprovoked. Why do all these Japanese people think their emperor is a God? It must be some deep dark ancient part of their cultural heritage as a race. We have to kill all their civilians and firebomb and nuke their country to force a surrender! These Japanese are so racist and evil!"
Then after the war, America rebuilt Japan to make them forget about what they just did to them and to prove that capitalism is superior to socialism by using the government to fund the development of a foreign country because that’s the most capitalist thing ever and doesn’t resemble socialism at all. And then the white people empires all collapsed, but the white countries were still rich, so then a lot of brown boys on the come up from Africa and India were like, "Hey, these white people taught us English, let’s all immigrate to these rich countries and send money back home!"
Then the white people were like, "No, this is a horrible invasion these brown people are going to pollute our blood!"
Then Japan is just like, "Everybody in Asia hates us, fuck foreigners!"
Then the white people are like, "YES JAPAN! WE LOVE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SO RACIST!"
And that’s the entire history of Japan.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 6 minutes later[T] [B] #670,039
(The entire history that’s relevant to white people.)
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,040
And then this is the entire history of the future of Japan:
Basically, white people who are against racial diversity are going to keep praising Japan for being ethnically homogenous. But at the same time, Japan isn’t going to be accepting more foreigners because the foreigners who are the most culturally similar to the Japanese all hate the Japanese, and Japanese people aren’t going to have any children, and they’re just going to slowly go extinct, and then at the end a bunch of Chinese tourists will start renting out cheap apartments in Japan, and then in 200 years Mandarin Chinese will be the dominant language in Japan.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 14 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,041
But you can tell that the Japanese are smart people because they were forced by white people to accept foreigners but then they thought that white people were racist so they decided to ally with the most racist white people and then they got defeated by less racist white people and now they have no military because a white country tells them not to. No African country was ever smart enough to do that. Clearly the Japanese who went running around killing members of their own race to prove something to another race are the most intelligent race of people because the white people who don’t let the Japanese have a military say they are because there’s zero conflict of interest there, and I as a black dude am too stupid to understand that.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,042
On the other hand the Chinese are stupid because they have a military and made their own nukes and won’t ally with the west. (Those stupid Chinese.)
+Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 19 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,046
Rwanda is committing genocide in the DRC and yet you're here seething about Japan again. When will you actually talk about important African issues, or are you just a diasporatard who thinks you're more African than the people that were left behind?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,047
@previous (B)
I’m fine with Japanese people. It’s the western narrative about Japan I think is dumb. Also Rwanda is a tiny ass country.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,048
To put it into perspective: Rwanda has a population of 14 million, Africa has 1.37 billion people. If you do the math, that means Rwanda is about 1% of Africa. There are cities in Africa bigger than the country of Rwanda and one of them is in the DRC. (Kinshasa is estimated to have a population of 17 million people.)
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,049
@670,047 (A)
And yet Rwanda is currently supporting a terrorist group which is committing acts of genocide in the eastern DRC. All the while being supported by Western powers for it! (Remember the UK-Rwanda refugee deal?)
Instead of seething about the Western perception of Japan, maybe you should do outreach work so that the suffering of the Congolese people becomes known to a larger amount of people.
+Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 29 seconds later, 55 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,050
Give it time. in about 100 years time pretty sure by then the Japanese population will have dwindled to the point that if North Korea wanted to invade and take over they can and would. They'll be royally fucked beyond return, you'll see they'll start to try gain the favor of blacks and browns with priority immigration for people of African/Indian/Arab descent but by then it's going to too late. The blacks and browns like you with this knowledge is going to ensure their future generations will maintain this exact standing so that when the Japanese plead for help or say "but that was 100 years ago, let it go." we can politely say "Nah go fuck yourself, go ask the racist BWC you worship so much and see if they'll consider you in their country lol"
·Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #670,051
@670,049 (B)
> And yet Rwanda is currently supporting a terrorist group which is committing acts of genocide in the eastern DRC. All the while being supported by Western powers for it! (Remember the UK-Rwanda refugee deal?)
> Instead of seething about the Western perception of Japan, maybe you should do outreach work so that the suffering of the Congolese people becomes known to a larger amount of people.
If you're so concerned about the suffering of Congolese people then what are you doing to help? Perhaps you can do the outreach yourself since you're a concerned citizen.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,053
@670,049 (B)
Rwanda and the DRC are both authoritarian countries. Obviously the suffering of people in those places matters, but there are also democratic states in Africa which are more promising in terms of economic development for the near future. War is a reality of the world. It isn’t the only war in Africa. Europe isn’t inherently better in this regard because despite being developed, they’re currently in a war between fellow Europeans right now. In terms of things that affect my life, white people trying to place blacks at the bottom of some stupid racial hierarchy in western countries is probably something that will hinder me as an individual more than a war going on in Africa which will almost certainly probably be won by the country that has 10x the population.
·Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,054
@670,046 (B)
> Rwanda is committing genocide in the DRC and yet you're here seething about Japan again. When will you actually talk about important African issues, or are you just a diasporatard who thinks you're more African than the people that were left behind?
You ironically prove op's point. It's almost as if any time a black accurately point the hypocrisy and the stupidity of the western world you all come out like fucking roaches. Seriously they're talking about Japan but you wanna discuss africa. Which has nothing to do with the topic.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,055
@670,053 (A)
Also, regarding the war in Europe, it’s the same thing.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,057
@670,051 (C)
I am doing all that I can to spread awareness.
@670,053 (A)
So you don't care aboutyy Africans at all, gotcha. In the end, your attitude is no different from the White Americans you constantly whine about: you don't care about Africa. You just use it as a symbol, but you don't actually give a fuck to the issues that African people face. No wonder you believe in the myth of democratic African countries when outside of the Indian Ocean republics any African would readily tell you how all elections are rigged and all of the wealth still gets siphoned out of the continent.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,058
@previous (B)
I’m half black half white. I’m not Russian, I’m not Ukrainian, I’m not Congolese, I’m not Rwandan, and neither were my ancestors. It’s not that complicated.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,060
And for the record, I actually do care about white people it’s just being white doesn’t cause me nearly as many problems as being black does so I have less to complain about for being white than being black even though genetically I’m over 60% white.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,061
@670,054 (C)
And what does Japan have to do with his plight? OP always acts like a fucking faggot offended by the fact that whites care about Japan when Japan has never been hostile to African nations and even provided lots of economic and technological assistance in previous decades. He's so ignorant about the state of the African continent that it makes my blood boil. As someone said in a previous thread, being mixed race in the US must suck, because OP seems to always be suffering some sort of identity crisis and seeking validation.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,063
@previous (B)
I literally said that my problem isn’t Japanese people. My problem is white people comparing Japan to African countries all over the place on the internet is annoying af.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,064
Alt right people don’t like non-white people but they make an exception for Japan because of Adolf Hitler, so when white people on the internet compare other cultures to Japan and pretend Japan is perfect and use it to be passive aggressive against other cultures is actually a dogwhistle for Nazism. That’s what I’m annoyed by. I don’t have any hate for Japanese people themselves.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,065
@670,060 (A)
culturally you're clearly American and all of your issues are American
so please when you are doing your retarded comparisons leave Africa out of it and just do it with America
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,066
@previous (B)
It’s kind of obvious you’re pretending to be offended about Africa since you randomly brought the topic of Rwanda up out of nowhere as a whataboutism.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,067
And for the record, you called me a faggot. I didn’t say anything bad about Congolese or Rwandan people, so it would be more credible if I accused you of homophobia than if you accused me of being anti Congolese of all random things.
·Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 27 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,068
@670,061 (B)
> that it makes my blood boil.
cool. dont hurt yourself fagchamp
> As someone said in a previous thread, being mixed race in the US must suck, because OP seems to always be suffering some sort of identity crisis and seeking validation.
Yeah I've seen that dumbass who wrote that. You and that cock-gobbler are just professional deflectors.
> I am doing all that I can to spread awareness.
Come on now. you can tell a black born in 1950's that bullshit and they'll eat it up but not now. You do just enough to appear on paper that you're doing something so that nobody can challenge or say otherwise but not to the point it makes significant change. you *might* care but not by much. it's ok.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 28 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,069
@670,063 (A)
I don't think there's even a comparison to be made when no African country is as relevant to white people as Japan is.
Also I don't know why you care about people comparing African countries to Japan when you yourself said earlier that you don't care about, at the very least, some African countries.
where does your ancestry come from, Nigeria? not like any African country could compare favorably to Japan but still
·Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,070
@670,064 (A)
> Alt right people don’t like non-white people but they make an exception for Japan because of Adolf Hitler, so when white people on the internet compare other cultures to Japan and pretend Japan is perfect and use it to be passive aggressive against other cultures is actually a dogwhistle for Nazism. That’s what I’m annoyed by. I don’t have any hate for Japanese people themselves.
pretty much. Sometimes you gotta dumb it down for these mongoloids.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,071
@670,069 (B)
> where does your ancestry come from, Nigeria? not like any African country could compare favorably to Japan but still
Why? Because Japan is wealthy and Nigeria is poor? Is it ethical to look down on people for being poor? And is it intelligent to not understand why people living in poverty suffer from higher rates of crime and violence?
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,072
@670,066 (A)
I brought it up because you keep making retarded comparisons. I just wanted to see if you actually cared about real African issues at all.
@670,067 (A)
never accused you of being antiCongolese, just of not caring about them
which is a totally normal American way of thinking and there's nothing wrong in not caring about people you've got no relation to
It's your constant use of Africa in other posts that I find infuriating. Like here earlier when you implied that Japan somehow got out of WW2 in a weak position that no African country ever did. When African countries are literally ready to do the Westerners' bidding by invading their neighbours like Rwanda is doing.
·Anonymous C — 6 months ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,073
@670,069 (B)
again Op is talking about Japan. we're going to stick to the topic at hand. you wanna about talk Africa; open your own fucking thread pasty faggot. not that hard to do. Over here doing deflecting the point.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,074
@670,071 (A)
For the record, if you think Japanese people are incapable of committing crime because something is special about their culture, look into what the Japanese did in China and Korea a little bit. A lot of the bad things going on in Africa you complain about the Japanese were doing themselves back in the 1930s and 1940s.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,075
@670,071 (A)
no, because Japan has a functional government while Nigeria is a fractured country where many Christians in the south want to break up and set up their own state
last elections were full of fraud allegations. But again it's hard to compare African countries positively to Japan outside of the demographic outlook and diversity.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,076
@670,072 (B)
Dude, I’m not stupid. You’re doing the dumbest propaganda technique ever. I said something about people who aren’t black so now you’re pointing out that not every black person ever treated every other black person well (maybe that’s simply because black people are humans just like everybody else). The whole game you’re playing is you’re trying to get to me criticize black people as if mistreatment of blacks by blacks somehow invalidates criticism of non-blacks mistreating blacks.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,077
@670,073 (C)
op made an incredibly racist and oversimplified post on the history of Japan and in his fourth post wanted to compare Africa to Japan favorably by saying that no African country was occupied and stripped of its army by the West like Japan was. If he had not mentioned Africa at all I would've ignored it.
@670,074 (A)
Why would I think that? The Japanese did commit genocide as well in China, I have no problem agreeing with this.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 8 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,078
@670,076 (A)
And for the record it doesn’t. Whites mistreat whites and Asians mistreat Asians, but if a non white person mistreats whites or if a non Asian person mistreats Asians it’s still wrong.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,079
@670,076 (A)
No, I am trying to have you stop using Africa for your retarded comparisons. When you want to talk shit about other places, compare it to America and don't mention African countries if you know nothing about their circumstances.
I'm just tired now. If you've got anything interesting to say, I'll read it tomorrow.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,080
@670,075 (B)
> no, because Japan has a functional government while Nigeria is a fractured country where many Christians in the south want to break up and set up their own state
You do realize Nigeria used to be more than one country before it was colonized by the British, right?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,081
@670,079 (B)
Dude, nobody’s falling for your bullshit.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,082
@670,080 (A)
And the reason why Nigeria is one country is because during the Nigerian civil war, the United States and the Soviet Union, the two largest military powers in the world were both backing the same side of the civil war. But you’re blaming Nigerians for it which is insane.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,083
@670,077 (B)
> no African country was occupied and stripped of its army by the West like Japan was.
I didn’t say that no African country was ever stripped of its military. I made a comparison between Japan and China. There’s also an obvious difference between the current state of Japan today and countries that were occupied by colonial powers in Africa. Japan does have a relationship with the United States that isn’t comparable with anything in Africa today.
·Anonymous B — 6 months ago, 34 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,084
@670,080 (A)
...sure? that's not rare at all and there are plenty of states with religious diversity that don't have strong religious separatism like Nigeria does.
Ivory Coast for an easy example. Relatively near Nigeria too.
@670,081 (A)
Like what?
@670,082 (A)
I am not arguing that Nigeria should be partitioned. There are lots of other countries with religious diversity that don't have the same issues. Nigeria could try to follow their example, but the state isn't even capable of stopping Fulani herdsmen from murdering Christians in the Central Belt.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,085
@670,077 (B)
> op made an incredibly racist and oversimplified post on the history of Japan
"Ancient Asian wisdom" was supposed to be interpreted sarcastically and the oversimplified nature of it was intentional because I was pointing out ironies not actually giving a real unironic lecture on Japanese history on some random anon site because that would be dumb. The point was to point out that the whole alt right narrative that white supremacy and Japanese culture are aligned because of some ancient cultural belief in Japan that Japanese people are racially superior and they all look up to white people is dumb. The whole point was that their attitudes about the world at different points in time were influenced by events, not by "their nature." And the whole thing was meant to sound stupid, because it’s not racist to point out that some things Japan did historically were undeniably pretty stupid. (Like allying with a genocidal white supremacist when you’re a non-European nation.)
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,086
@670,084 (B)
Who cares though? If there’s religious violence in Nigeria or there’s violence between Rwanda and the DRC, why does that mean I can’t have an opinion about things whites say about Africans on the internet? Maybe you make a distinction between African Americans and Africans in Africans but alt right people (which are the people I’m complaining about) don’t.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,087
And for the record, just because I criticize an aspect of a country doesn’t mean I don’t like the country or I don’t like the people. I believe everyone has a right to be proud of where their people came from. My opinion about Africa and Asia and Europe isn’t different. Obviously there are horrible things that African and Asian and European countries have done, but there are things about African and Asian and European countries that people from those places and people who's ancestors are from those places have every right to be proud of. It’s not either or. Life isn’t simple.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,088
And I am proud of being white, but there’s a correct way and an incorrect way to be proud of being white. I’m not proud of any of the atrocities white majority nations have committed around the world. But there is still a lot of cultural beauty in Europe to take pride in. But taking pride in that doesn’t require polishing evil to pretend it’s something other than evil.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,089
@previous (A)
It also doesn’t require saying one culture is superior to another somehow. Just because I criticized some aspects of Japan doesn’t mean there aren’t others that I like, and it doesn’t mean I think they’re either better or worse than I am.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,090
@previous (A)
In fact, the thing I was annoyed by is people who aren’t black or Japanese stating that Japanese culture is superior to African culture as if they’re in some position to judge entire cultures.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,091
And really the point of it wasn’t to be anti Asian even. I was pointing out the absurdity that alt right white nationalists pretend to like Japan as a way to put down other non-white races while also being incredibly anti Asian whenever they’re talking about any Asian country that isn’t Japan.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 6 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #670,092
Really, if you want to know what I’m actually mad at it’s not Japanese people it’s people like this guy
https://youtu.be/puJ-arJgkZU+Anonymous D — 6 months ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,093
Also the whole thing about Japan not having a military wasn’t a criticism of Japan. I said things in my original post that should make it obvious which side of that I was criticizing.
+Anonymous E — 6 months ago, 11 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,121
@OP
You left out the part about Japan thinking bombing Pearl Harbor would weaken us to keep us from interfering with their conquest of China and the eastern Pacific Rim. Also the demoralization of the Japanese people after being bombed into submission and the occupation and rule of Douglas MacArthur. The destabilization of Africa is due to conquest, but using mercenaries like the Brits did to destabilize India. The destabilization of America and the destruction of its natural resources and people is a combination of the above. The guy in ur video is a gigantic bundle of sticks which serves as a distraction for those who are ignorant of history so they'll be doomed to repeat it.
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+Anonymous F — 6 months ago, 47 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,124
Introduction to Japanese history+Anonymous G — 6 months ago, 31 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,127
@previous (F)
Now that’s REAL racism!
+Anonymous H — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,129
@previous (G)
Exactly what race is she?
+Anonymous I — 6 months ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,131
@previous (H)
Shaved Fish. My favorite John Lennon album.
·Anonymous F — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,133
@previous (I)
> Shaved Fish.
Yoko Ono is very much Japanese. She probably shaved her Vag for John.
@670,127 (G)
How is that racist? Oh If not for Japan I would not be alive.
+Anonymous J — 6 months ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,135
@previous (F)
Fetishizing Asians…
·Anonymous F — 6 months ago, 6 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,136
@previous (J)
> Fetishizing
verb
gerund or present participle: fetishizing
make (something) the object of a sexual fetish.
"women's bodies are so intensely fetishized"
That was/is NOT my intention.
I do not expect you to understand how a Symbol can be
Tasty as well as well intentioned.
·Anonymous J — 6 months ago, 9 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,140
@previous (F)
Denial is a river in Egypt.
·Anonymous F — 6 months ago, 16 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,141
@previous (J)
> Denial is a river in Egypt.
Sorry for the delay in reply. The search for this took longer than expected. So many choices for you.
The problem with this one is asking how does one do this and not get pubic hair mixed in with the Sushi.
+Anonymous K — 6 months ago, 44 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #670,144
shut the fuck up catherine