Topic: Japan (as a black dude)
+Anonymous A — 7 months ago #67,309
As a black dude, idk how to feel about the Japanese. Because on the one hand, white supremacists tend to like the Japanese. On the other hand, the Japanese have maid cafes where men dress up as women and that’s weird and gay. Then Japanese people also make shit like this
https://youtu.be/gVhqi2LVkq8 . I’m not saying this as like a racist thing, but as a black dude I don’t like being around Jamaicans because Jamaicans are so black they make me feel like I’m bland chicken or something. They should really take it as a compliment, they make me feel like a fake black person.
You know, my real problem with Japan is they just give off too many mixed messages. I feel like I can’t judge their character because it’s too all over the place. Even western stereotypes of the Japanese conflict. They’re the weirdest people in the world but they can’t tolerate non-conformity. How does that work? You know? What am I supposed to think about that. As a black man, what is supposed to be my opinion of the Japanese. I know how I’m supposed to feel about Chinese people, I’ve already got that taken care of. The Japanese, not too sure yet.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 55 seconds later[T] [B] #669,061
Like there’s gotta be some official black handbook I can refer to or something that says how black people are supposed to feel about the Japanese. I don’t want to think for myself on this. I need to refer to whoever the CEO of blackness is.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 6 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,062
China is simple though. The way we gotta deal with China, is support everything they do, but just say "I don’t support the CCP" randomly whenever you mention China or Chinese people so that white people don’t freak out and call you a commie, and that takes care of everything.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 7 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,064
At least from a historical perspective, it seems a bit ambiguous. From a historical perspective it seems obvious that Europeans were bad for Africans. The Japanese though, basically nothing really happened there. Under apartheid they were given some level of rights above black but beneath whites but as a biracial person technically I would have been sorta in the same place. But it would be sorta weird to blame me for laws I didn’t make and technically the Japanese didn’t make that law so it’s technically not their fault. So Japan and Africa, meh. There’s not much there to go off of. But Japan in Asia, that gets tricky. Because on the one hand, Japan had an empire that did bad things. For example, they mistreated the Koreans. But then, do Koreans love Africans? And okay, right, the Japanese attacked America, but then they got nuked. And on the one hand you could say that the nazis were racist and the Japanese were allied with the nazis and the nazis hated black people so if you’re a black person you should hate Japan. Except, people that hate Japan tend to end their arguments with justifying the nukes. But then if you’re black, do you really wanna be justifying white people nuking non-white people? Because that worldview isn’t exactly a great one either. So between all that, I’m kinda just like, "Meh, I don’t really know."
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,065
@previous (A)
There are actually groups that have done statistics on that. Ironically black people are way less likely than white people to say nuking Japan was justified even though racists like Japan and the Japanese were allied with the Nazis, we’re actually significantly more likely to say it was unjustified than white people are, by a huge margin.
+Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 9 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,067
I just wish they didn't censor their porn.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,068
@previous (B)
Porn was actually illegal in Japan under the emperor but then I guess from American cultural influence they sorta half-legalized it. Honestly, I don’t feel like porn should count as free expression, but that’s just me.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,071
Speaking of the emperor though, I don’t support monarchy in general, but the British monarchy kinda pisses me off in a way the Japanese monarchy doesn’t. I don’t know if it’s the stolen African jewels on their crown or what. I can’t put my finger on it, maybe it’s my Irish ancestors or something, but it’s something about the British man.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 6 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,073
@669,068 (A)
I think porn while hedonistic is fine. I also support legalizing sex work, certain drugs like pot, shrooms, and dmt and decriminalizing many more. I think ethunanisa and things such as contraceptives and abortion should be legal to but regulated. I'd even go as far as to say that copyright should not exist or at least be heavily weakened.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,074
@669,071 (A)
I can agree to that. The British monarchy angers me a great deal to due to all their historical bullshit and their smug posh act. Even though the Saudis are far worse in the present day something about the Anglo's just makes them especially detestable.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,075
@669,073 (B)
I feel like I don’t align well with the left/right political spectrum in the United States tbh. I think fundamentally even though liberals and conservatives hate each other, they both have this libertarian idea that freedom for the sake of freedom is always good. But I did some soul searching and I don’t believe in that myself. Even though I disagree with most of what you just said, except for maybe abortion in some cases (like if it saves the woman’s life or the fetus is already dead I think denying a woman abortion in those circumstances is indefensible), I am still firmly left wing. But it’s mostly because of race and economics. I’m also kinda left leaning when it comes to LGBTQ+ stuff, I’m not opposed to somebody being gay or trans but when it comes to more fringe stuff like making up pronouns I get a bit less interested in defending that.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 43 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,076
@669,074 (B)
A lot of British people are cool though, it’s just most cultures haven’t invaded literally everyone everywhere in the entire world, so it doesn’t feel the same when an Italian or whatever is being arrogant.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,077
@669,075 (A)
I think the left vs right thing is sort of the a spook of the mind. I mean it does exist but everyone's definition changes based upon. Region and time itself.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 40 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,078
@669,075 (A)
Like I’m not authoritarian or anything, I believe in democracy. I just think sometimes you have to do what’s best for society even if it means restricting individual rights. Like guns for example. Or for example, the Nazis in Germany came to power democratically. So I don’t believe in keeping hate speech legal because it undermines democracy. I do believe in upholding democracy, but I don’t take the whole "good always wins in the end if you let everyone do whatever they want because God wills it" I tend to be a bit more pessimistic and think "well, democracy is fragile so you really have to be active about protecting it."
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,079
@669,077 (B)
That’s true. Also a lot of black Americans that vote democrat are more conservative than I am, but they just vote democrat because republicans are racist. It’s all artificial.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 0 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,080
@669,076 (A)
> A lot of British people are cool though, it’s just most cultures haven’t invaded literally everyone everywhere in the entire world, so it doesn’t feel the same when an Italian or whatever is being arrogant.
I have mixed feelings on the British similar to Jewish people. A very smart people who have created an insane amount of beneficial things but also the source of so many societal horrors.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,081
@669,079 (A)
Republicans are retarded. The democrats are gay. That's how I feel about politics as an Amedican. I can't even being myself to vote anymore because it's depressing.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,082
@669,080 (B)
Tbh, I think my view of the British is actually mostly positive. The wrongs of the past aren’t the fault of the living unless the living choose to defend it. That’s how I feel about everybody. Slavery isn’t white peoples fault unless they want to defend it, then it is.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 51 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,083
@669,078 (A)
> Like I’m not authoritarian or anything, I believe in democracy. I just think sometimes you have to do what’s best for society even if it means restricting individual rights. Like guns for example. Or for example, the Nazis in Germany came to power democratically. So I don’t believe in keeping hate speech legal because it undermines democracy. I do believe in upholding democracy, but I don’t take the whole "good always wins in the end if you let everyone do whatever they want because God wills it" I tend to be a bit more pessimistic and think "well, democracy is fragile so you really have to be active about protecting it."
I can see your point to an extent but feel that is opening Pandoras box. For example who gets to decide what should or shouldn't be allowed. No one will ever agree on this nor do I think any government has a right to censor me.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 52 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,084
@669,081 (B)
Really, the way I see it, a two party system is only one step away from a one party state. Everybody in America wants it, it’s just they don’t agree on which party should be the one that gets to rule. I think it started on the right under Trump’s first term, but as a reaction to it, democrats who are my age are getting more extreme. It won’t have an effect for decades, but I don’t know how that will turn out.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 53 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,085
@669,082 (A)
That's a fair assessment I just tend to hold a grudge due to various reasons. Not so much at the people themselves but the crown. I pray for the day it falls along with the royals heads from their shoulders.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 12 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,086
@669,083 (B)
I do believe in human rights and I do believe in democracy, but I also believe some things are more important than democracy. For example, the survival of my race. If someone is democratically elected who wants to get rid of black people for example, then I’ll stop supporting democracy and support an authoritarian that doesn’t want to exterminate my people. I believe in this whole democracy thing up to a certain point.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 45 seconds later, 54 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,087
@669,084 (A)
> Really, the way I see it, a two party system is only one step away from a one party state. Everybody in America wants it, it’s just they don’t agree on which party should be the one that gets to rule. I think it started on the right under Trump’s first term, but as a reaction to it, democrats who are my age are getting more extreme. It won’t have an effect for decades, but I don’t know how that will turn out.
Two party state is lame. Would prefer a true multi party state like those in most of world have.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,088
@previous (B)
Tbh I’m actually planning on leaving the country as soon as I graduate. The system is falling apart. Either it will become a party state or something dangerously close to it.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 57 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,090
@669,086 (A)
Really the one problem with democracy, is that, it is based around protecting the good and not doing too much for the fear of accidentally damaging the good. But if you protect evil, then evil can win, and in fact, it will win eventually if you wait long enough.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 52 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,091
@669,088 (A)
I suspect something akin to blade runner in a matter of time. A techo fedualist dystopia. It's no secret its what those like Elon Musk, Peter Theil and J.D Vance want and the later two are known disciples of Curtis Yarvin who's ideology calls just for that.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 59 seconds later, 59 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #669,092
@previous (B)
The one thing I don’t understand is how Donald Trump is supposed to be a dictator if he fires the whole government.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,093
Like if you’re a dictator, you’ve at least gotta be a dictator of something. You can’t just be sitting in an office by yourself.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,094
@669,092 (A)
> The one thing I don’t understand is how Donald Trump is supposed to be a dictator if he fires the whole government.
In a similar vein to the likes of Pinochet most likely.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,095
Tbh I think in the world today, people have a habit of calling people Nazis who aren’t Nazis, but I think the distinction between Nazis and authoritarians is important. For example, in World War Two, the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were both authoritarian, and there are people who hate the Soviet Union and hate Marxism, but the world and humanity was far better off for the Soviet Union winning rather than Nazism. While I prefer democracy to autocracy, some forms of autocracy are worse than others, and I think that in the future, there might be countries we consider to be bad that might actually turn out to have a role for humanity that’s actually important. The specifics of that anybody can figure out, but certain people have a certain ideology that might be worse than what they oppose.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,096
Democracy is always ideal, but it might not work out, basically.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,097
@669,095 (A)
I really wonder how things would have played out for eastern Europe if they remained under nazi occupation. If generalplan ost is to be believed likey even worse than under the soviets which was quite terrible according to those I know from that area.
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·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,098
@669,096 (A)
> Democracy is always ideal, but it might not work out, basically.
It is but it's by bo means perfect at the end of the day this video sums it up well.
https://youtu.be/5AeO-dKGBLs ·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,101
@669,097 (B)
Basically, there wouldn’t be Eastern Europeans.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,104
Like the death tolls from Germany’s invasions of Russia and Ukraine are crazy. More people died from that than from the holocaust.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,105
@669,101 (A)
Rip, I know they supposedly looked to do to them what the settlers did to the natives. I just wonder how successful they would have been.
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·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,106
@669,104 (A)
Didn't they kill like a quarter of Russia and a similar level or Belarus. Not sure of how many in Ukraine they killed but possibly similar.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,107
@previous (B)
Idk. Whatever it is, I get people like freedom of speech and everything, but I don’t feel like Nazi stuff needs to be protected. Like, if you fly the ISIS flag, the government is gonna start watching you. I feel like Nazism should be the same thing. It’s just another form of terrorist ideology.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,108
@previous (A)
There are countries where it is treated that way, America just isn’t one of them.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 33 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,109
@669,107 (A)
I mean I don't think people should be flying that shit around either since it's akin to support of terrorism. The issue I have is the word nazi had lost most of its orignal meaning and now its just anyone someone doesn't like.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,110
@previous (B)
The problem isn’t Nazism becoming less extreme, the problem is less extreme stuff leading towards Nazism.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 35 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,111
@669,108 (A)
> There are countries where it is treated that way, America just isn’t one of them.
I understand them not allowing it displayed and I probably even agree eith them but I strongly disagree with said countries speech laws. Places like Britan and Germany throw people in jail for cricising things like mass immigration of Muslims yet said Muslims go around causing extreme social unrest and it's those who criticise this suicidal policy who are the ones often treated harshly.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,112
@669,110 (A)
I think we fundamentally disagree on what a nazi is. Yours is clearly more broad and liberally applied than mine is.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,113
@669,111 (B)
I have different values. I think that technology will enable authoritarianism in a way it has never existed before previously. I’m more concerned with what ideology that authoritarianism is based around. Freedom of speech is impossible to protect on the internet. Everything we’re typing right now is stored on a server that is owned by someone else who we don’t know somewhere where we don’t know. And it’s their physical property. Is deleting their hard drive or unplugging their computer a violation of our first amendment rights? My concern isn’t that I am free to say whatever I want, I just want to know what not to say so that I don’t say it by mistake. Because there are things we can’t say, we just don’t know what we can’t say.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,114
@669,112 (B)
Probably accurate.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,115
Or generative AI. Making fake images and fake videos and fake text. They’re not doing that because it will preserve democracy, attacking the concept of truth is one of the strategies to make it harder for people to organize around something if they can’t all agree on one reality.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,116
@669,113 (A)
> I have different values. I think that technology will enable authoritarianism in a way it has never existed before previously. I’m more concerned with what ideology that authoritarianism is based around. Freedom of speech is impossible to protect on the internet. Everything we’re typing right now is stored on a server that is owned by someone else who we don’t know somewhere where we don’t know. And it’s their physical property. Is deleting their hard drive or unplugging their computer a violation of our first amendment rights? My concern isn’t that I am free to say whatever I want, I just want to know what not to say so that I don’t say it by mistake. Because there are things we can’t say, we just don’t know what we can’t say.
You are right in that it will probably further enable authoritarianism. But I don't think this is by any means a good thing. Not sure one can ever say there is such a good kind of authoritarianism simply differing degrees of evil depending on what branch and who's in charge. I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that we should he afraid to legally speak ones own mind.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,117
@previous (B)
There are already things I’m afraid to support. Last year in college when all the other students were protesting Israel, I walked on the other side of the street because I don’t want a picture of me near that that could ruin my life.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,118
@669,115 (A)
> Or generative AI. Making fake images and fake videos and fake text. They’re not doing that because it will preserve democracy, attacking the concept of truth is one of the strategies to make it harder for people to organize around something if they can’t all agree on one reality.
This is true and it one used often by hostile natuon states and actors to weaponize ones own freedom against itself. You could make an serious argument that the inefficiency of the liberal democratic capitalist order is exactly what has caused the rise or this new populist nationally conservative right wing and I would actually agree that you are right.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,119
@669,117 (A)
Probably wise due to things like palantir and Clearview ai and weaponization of such tools against the dissident.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 31 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,120
That doesn't necessarily mean one should have to live this way though but it is what it is I guess.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,121
My whole thing is basically that, freedom isn’t binary. It’s not either absolute freedom or no freedom, there are plenty of things in the middle to choose from, and every country in the world is somewhere on that spectrum. Different people have different values, everyone belongs to different groups, and some groups are safer in some societies with some sets of rules than other societies with other sets of rules. I’m not really interested in changing the set of rules or advocating for a different set of rules because it’s not worth the risk, I’m just interested in looking at what my options are in the world and choosing which society is most advantageous for me as an individual.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,122
@previous (A)
And my thing about freedom of speech isn’t that I’m opposed to freedom of speech in theory, I believe being allowed to criticize the government specifically is a good thing. But in general, as a black person, I’m safer in a society where people who don’t like black people don’t feel safe. And I don’t particularly care about those people so I can live with it.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,123
It’s something people don’t think about because white nationalism has been gaining popularity in public discourse but groups white nationalists are afraid of are actually groups who are safer to be around if you’re a minority. For example, I’m a brown dude, I’ve been around Muslims before, no Muslim has ever threatened me in my entire life. People who hate Muslims are more likely to be dangerous for me than Muslims are likely to be dangerous for me. For a fully white person, that might not be the case.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #669,124
@previous (A)
While I get your sentiments you would most definitely not enjoy living in the typical Islamic society if your not a Muslim. It's not about hatred to me all memes aside but recognizing reality. And the reality of the matter is Islamic values are incompatible with the West and I feel like that religion should absolutely be Stigmatized against and repressed here because it's an extreme threat to everyone else. So even I am not for absolute freedom though I am for it far more than most which leads me to some often radical views.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,125
@previous (B)
I’m a Catholic, there are some aspects of Catholicism which contradict democracy. For example the concept of Papal infallibility and banned ideologies. But plenty of Catholic majority nations are democracies.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,126
I believe that more Islamic countries would be democracies if it wasn’t for western intervention (including the British Empire, I’m not just talking about the modern day US hegemony).
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,127
@669,125 (A)
For example, Catholics aren’t allowed to be Freemasons because secret societies are considered to be evil but a lot of founding members of the United States were Freemasons.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,128
I also think that, Islam isn’t Christianity (obviously), but Islam and Christianity do worship the same God. I obviously don’t agree with Muslims on everything because I’m not Muslim, but I do respect their culture and I respect their religion because I’ve been friends with Muslims who accepted that I was Catholic and were still fine with me. Now if I was an atheist, I don’t know if they’d still be cool with me, but Muslims aren’t fundamentally opposed to everything that’s different from themselves. They live under authoritarian governments that are, but Muslims themselves are good people and I respect their religion and their culture.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,129
@previous (A)
Although I do know an atheist who’s been to authoritarian Islamic countries and was hanging out with people over there lol.
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,130
Also I don’t really know how much I believe in "western values" myself. "The west" really just means "white majority countries." I don’t think the human rights record of European nations is necessarily spotless, some of the worst atrocities in history were committed by Europeans. And there are democracies which are not western. So equating western with democracy I feel is dishonest. Marxism is a western ideology as much as democracy is, it was invented by a western guy. Catholicism is western. A lot of unrelated stuff is western. You could say Nazism is western.
+Anonymous C — 7 months ago, 29 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,131
@previous (A)
> Catholicism is western
Catholic means universal. I think there are 24 Rites in the Universal Church. For example, the Roman Rite is western but the Maronite Rite originated in Lebanon and is among 23 eastern Rites. I think Ambrosian rite is western sub rite but can't recall for sure. All part of the Apostolic succession but in communion with Rome.
+Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,132
@previous (C)
(I’m op, I just cleared my cookies.)
The Vatican is in Rome. By "western" I simply mean European in origin. Democracy isn’t western by the same logic. Japan’s not western, but they’re a democracy. The Philippines isn’t western but they’re Catholic.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 0 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,133
@669,125 (A)
There is one large difference though. Compare the character and nature's of Mohammad and Jesus Christ. Islam Gordon backwards to the most brutal parts of the old testament.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 37 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,134
@669,126 (A)
Perhaps some would have securlaized but as it stand that's simply what if scenarios.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 23 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,135
Obviously, Jesus wasn’t from Europe, but you get the point. The center of Christianity was Europe for hundreds of years.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,136
@669,130 (A)
The west certainly isn't perfect but I can't help but to be greatful that most other civilizations aren't in charge of the world.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 59 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,138
@669,134 (B)
There are democracies which do have significant Muslim populations though. Nigeria for instance has elections and multiple political parties. Obviously, since it’s African and African countries are poor and exploited all the time it doesn’t rank high in the democracy index, but it does have a democratic constitution.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,139
@669,136 (B)
As a black person, I’m looking forward to Africa’s rise. The dominance of Europe didn’t do anything good for Africa. Wealthy countries are generally more democratic. The reason isn’t because democracy causes countries to become wealthy, the reason is because wealth causes countries to become democratic. Although, the original origin of the wealth of Europe is not something to be proud of.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 14 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,140
@669,138 (D)
Turkey is a democracy to as is Russia on paper but I wouldn't want to live on either of them. They have strong anti intellectual and fundamentalist undercurrents. Such a place I don't find very desirable to live.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 37 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,141
@previous (B)
Nigeria is a lot of things but it isn’t comparable to Russia lol.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,142
@669,139 (D)
> As a black person, I’m looking forward to Africa’s rise. The dominance of Europe didn’t do anything good for Africa. Wealthy countries are generally more democratic. The reason isn’t because democracy causes countries to become wealthy, the reason is because wealth causes countries to become democratic. Although, the original origin of the wealth of Europe is not something to be proud of.
I don't see anything much in the future to look forward to. What awaits is an environmentally ruined techo feudlaist dystopia.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 11 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,143
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,144
@previous (B)
Russia is an authoritarian state that’s trying to invade its neighbors. Nigeria did threaten to invade one of its neighbors recently, but it was to depose an authoritarian leader. Which is kinda the opposite of what Russia would do.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,145
@previous (D)
I don't know a lot about Nigeria personally so can't comment to much but I just wouldn't wish to live in such a deeply religious part of the world. Doubly so being pale as death.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,146
@previous (B)
Basically what I was referencing was a Russian mercenary group backed a coup in Niger which overthrew their democratically elected leader, then Nigeria threatened to invade Niger along with other ECOWAS members to overthrow the Russian backed coup. But then Nigeria backed down over concerns about the cost associated with an invasion of Niger. Although given Nigeria is much larger in terms of population than Niger they would almost certainly win, but it would have been a humanitarian crisis if they actually did it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerien_crisis_(2023%E2%80%932024) ·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,147
I think I’m pretty chill about religion in general. I’m not deeply opposed to religion. In fact, I hope that God does exist because I don’t want death to be the end.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,148
@669,146 (D)
> Basically what I was referencing was a Russian mercenary group backed a coup in Niger which overthrew their democratically elected leader, then Nigeria threatened to invade Niger along with other ECOWAS members to overthrow the Russian backed coup. But then Nigeria backed down over concerns about the cost associated with an invasion of Niger. Although given Nigeria is much larger in terms of population than Niger they would almost certainly win, but it would have been a humanitarian crisis if they actually did it.
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerien_crisis_(2023%E2%80%932024)
Did this Russian group happen to be Wagner?
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 39 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,149
@669,147 (D)
I am agnostic. A part of me hopes there is but another part hopes there isn't and I can just rest in eternal slumber.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,150
@669,146 (D)
Although "democratically elected" - probably wasn’t a super democratic country ever in the first place, but whatever they had was probably better than a guy backed by Russian mercenaries who were so crazy Vladimir Putin killed their leader Yevgeny Prigozhin by blowing up his plane after he threatened to overthrow Putin. The Wagner mercenaries got so crazy even the Russians had trouble controlling them inside of Russia proper.
+Anonymous E — 7 months ago, 53 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,151
Answer my fucking question faggots. jfc.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 38 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,152
@669,148 (B)
Allegedly. There were several coups in the Sahel region backed by Russia. You can find pictures online from some of those countries where black people were waving around Russian flags so it’s kinda hard to deny Russia had something to do with it.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 39 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,153
@669,151 (E)
> Answer my fucking question faggots. jfc.
What question?
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 52 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,154
@previous (B)
They’re trolling. That’s the first thing E posted in this entire thread lol.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,155
@669,152 (D)
> Allegedly. There were several coups in the Sahel region backed by Russia. You can find pictures online from some of those countries where black people were waving around Russian flags so it’s kinda hard to deny Russia had something to do with it.
Sounds about right there are also the same ones funding a lot of the hard right as well as left wing groups in the Europe to try and destabilize the EU and Nato. They likewise are heavily involved with disinformation complains, organized crime cyberterrorism and often intentionally weapnize migrants by sending them to rival nations to destabilize them. Basically fuck Russia is all I am saying
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,156
@previous (B)
Although, it is good that there is resistance to authoritarianism in Africa.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,157
@previous (D)
I honestly do hope that Africa does improve. Perhaps I am deeply cynical towards humanity in general. I just am a deeply pessimistic person and often bordering on fatalism to my own detriment.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,158
@previous (B)
Russia and China are betting on it. Both Russia and China will experience demographic collapses due to low birth rates in the near future. Africa has the highest birth rates. In the future, most of the young working aged people in the world will be Africans as opposed to Europeans or Asians, so more companies might start producing products in Africa instead of Asia at some point.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,159
Already some western companies are outsourcing labor to Africa, for example content moderation, which is pretty disturbing if you look into what they’re making poor who are just trying to survive people look at all day in order to keep westerners from getting traumatized by graphic content on social media. But it’s similar to China, it will start out super exploitative but then over time as they develop it will improve.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,160
@669,158 (D)
> Russia and China are betting on it. Both Russia and China will experience demographic collapses due to low birth rates in the near future. Africa has the highest birth rates. In the future, most of the young working aged people in the world will be Africans as opposed to Europeans or Asians, so more companies might start producing products in Africa instead of Asia at some point.
I could see that happening. I just wonder what it would look like if the world is like the one in Blade Runner.
·Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 52 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,161
@669,159 (D)
> Already some western companies are outsourcing labor to Africa, for example content moderation, which is pretty disturbing if you look into what they’re making poor who are just trying to survive people look at all day in order to keep westerners from getting traumatized by graphic content on social media. But it’s similar to China, it will start out super exploitative but then over time as they develop it will improve.
I honestly wish I had that job. I have been online for so long and browsed so many chans and shock sites that I am already deeply mentally fucked beyond belief.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,163
Overall, I think the way I think about the world is pretty simple when it comes down to it. I’m just opposed to things that are opposed to me, and otherwise I can tolerate most things.
·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #669,164
@previous (D)
Although, I do care about other people, but never other people who don’t care about me.