Topic: Democracy

+Anonymous A — 7 months ago #67,261

I think democracy is nice and everything, but I’m kinda tired of it. It would be nice if it didn’t matter who won elections.

https://youtu.be/QFgcqB8-AxE

·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 7 minutes later[T] [B] #668,670

The problem with dictatorship isn’t that the will of the people doesn’t matter, it’s that power is the most appealing to the people who are the least deserving of it. The most ideal government would be a dictatorship consisting of people who would have no desire to run for office in a democracy. The only way to ever achieve that ideal would be a bureaucratic dictatorship founded on mountains of paperwork and legal documents. The ideal system would be a system where the only way to get promoted to a higher level of government is to do so much paperwork only the most dry, boring, moderate, uninteresting lawyers would ever get any say over how anything works.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,671

Also probably requiring elected officials to hold degrees or pass some type of test would be a good idea. Like a senator should have a degree in economics or law or science or something, and they should be tested on it to make sure they’re not senile or incompetent.

+Anonymous B — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,672

@previous (A)
China requires you to have some kind of degree. So China will not get any kind of Marjorie Greenes or Trumps or some other kind of losers

+Anonymous C — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,673

you severely overestimate the ability of bureaucrats to do good

+Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 5 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,674

@previous (C)
I don’t think they’ll do good for the world. I’d just rather get bossed around by some stuffy old people with law degrees than a bunch of uppity billionaires who want to rig the game for themselves. (Cough, Elon Musk.)

·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 3 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,677

@668,672 (B)
I don’t like authoritarianism, and I’m not pro CCP, but at the same time, out of every kind of authoritarianism that has been tried in history, the modern CCP (not talking about Mao), is probably the form of authoritarianism that I find to be the least offensive. Americans talk about how "evil" China is, but America has military bases in Saudi Arabia and gives them weapons and supports their government. Try being a woman in Saudi Arabia vs China. Like we support some countries that are actually probably worse than China, but whatever.

·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 1 minute later, 21 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,678

@previous (D)
Or another thing China doesn’t do that Saudi Arabia does do: cut people’s heads off with swords in public squares for being gay. I’m not saying the gays are treated well in China, but they’re not doing that.

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+Anonymous E — 7 months ago, 6 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,679

@previous (D)
> Or another thing China doesn’t do that Saudi Arabia does do: cut people’s heads off with swords in public squares for being gay. I’m not saying the gays are treated well in China, but they’re not doing that.

Saudi Arabia is a Totally Muslim country. Muslims do not tolerate Homosexuals. Cutting off a few heads in public is not much different than Crucifying Jesus.

·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,680

@previous (E)
I’m not a Muslim but I’m actually not really opposed to Islam. Most Muslims I’ve met in my life are actually really good people, it’s just, an authoritarian absolute monarchy mixed with theocracy tends to result in people’s heads getting chopped off. Indonesia is a Muslim majority country but they actually had a female leader before the United States (we still haven’t had one actually).

·Anonymous D — 7 months ago, 26 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #668,681

Like IDK, Obama for example. Obama didn’t just do stuff because he felt like doing stuff like Trump is doing right now. He was left leaning when it came to healthcare, but culturally he was more conservative (originally he was opposed to gay marriage but people forget that). He was also militaristic, he killed a lot of people in the Middle East with drone strikes, but at the same time he did have principles. He had that kind of old stuffy boring attitude about "freedom and democracy." He wasn’t saying, "Let’s take over Canada and rename the Gulf of Mexico." He wasn’t trying to commit genocide, and he didn’t try to ignore congress and just push his will anyway. He was more into the boring bureaucratic stuff with a hint of militarism to spice things up a bit. I kinda miss that. Trump and Biden were both terrible presidents.