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Topic: Isn’t conception the actual act of egg fertilization not birth?
+Anonymous A — 9 months ago #67,134
How do you determine the sex of a sperm cell after it happened?
+Anonymous B — 9 months ago, 15 minutes later[T] [B] #667,373
The sperm cell actually determines whether the baby is male or female before conception happens.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 9 months ago, 24 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #667,384
@previous (B)
I’m pretty sure a sperm cell lacks the sexual reproductive organs and systems that determine that. So, I’m not sure how you can prove what “sex” a cell is.
+Anonymous C — 9 months ago, 3 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #667,388
Shut up Catherine
·Anonymous B — 9 months ago, 5 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #667,394
+Biology 101 — 9 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #667,398
@667,384 (A)
Male sperm (\(Y\)) contain a Y chromosome, while female sperm (\(X\)) contain an X chromosome.
The sex of a baby is determined by which chromosome the sperm contributes to the egg +ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 9 months ago, 14 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #667,484
nobody has ever called the birth the conception. what
·Anonymous A (OP) — 9 months ago, 20 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #667,487
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
That's what I thought, but that's how the executive order is defined.
·ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 9 months ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[T] [B] #667,492
Americans r so abortion obsessed. only in america will u see a public msg that says "ask me about my abortion"
+Anonymous F — 9 months ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[T] [B] #667,495
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
Tbh the dumb thing about the abortion debate is people have different opinions on where "life begins" but both the sperm cell and the egg cell are alive before conception. After conception the egg cell is alive, during the pregnancy the fetus is alive, and after the birth the baby is alive. Everything is alive the whole time, where anybody draws the line is just arbitrary and based on feelings of value which are not objective. Life is never created. Living cells just divide from already living cells. Abiogenesis only happened one time billions of years ago. People will just make stuff up to justify whatever they already feel.
·ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 9 months ago, 54 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #667,505
@previous (F)
yeah ur right. also hate when pro abortion ppl try to use the rape baby or the risk of mother death argument bcuz those are like 1% of cases its a weird argument to make. both sides forget about someone else any way. anti abortion ppl dont care about the potential mothers and pro abortion ppl dont care about potential babies
+Anonymous G — 9 months ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #667,508
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
I think that people will always want "their rights" (not in quotes because of this right specifically it’s just that all human rights are arbitrary and based on values which are subjective to the individual which is why different countries have different sets of rights based on their cultural values). But I think that really, it’s possible to say that people have the right to an abortion and give people the right to an abortion and also prevent the vast majority of abortions by just having better government policy surrounding issues that affect women and families. For example, give parents greater paid maternity and paternity leave, give tax benefits and economic assistance to families (based on the size of the family), educate teenagers on sex (the more they know about pregnancy the less likely they are to actually have sex in the first place), make contraceptives available to people who don’t want to have kids so they don’t get pregnant in the first place, try to lift the economies of poor neighborhoods to lower crime, etc. Abortion isn’t an inevitable fact of life that everybody just has to accept and we don’t have to force people to do anything or take anybody’s rights away to significantly reduce the number of abortions. (In my view.) and I don’t think anyone, pro life or pro choice should be against any of those measures I just mentioned. But that’s not the focus of the debate because one of the flaws of a democracy is it’s a popularity contest and what gets people mad is what wins elections.
Edit: I’m the same person as F I just cleared my cookies
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·Anonymous G — 9 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #667,509
@previous (G)
I’m also of the opinion that paternity leave is important. It is true that the woman biologically has to do more (women breastfeed men don’t, I get that). But at the same time, the burden of raising the child shouldn’t be entirely placed on the woman. If men have the same amount of time off from work as woman after a woman has a child, then he can help raise the child so that she’s not just doing everything on her own.
That and I also think religious *values* aren’t inherently bad. So for example, monogamy and commitment. Divorce is important some people are psychos and you absolutely need a way to get out of that. But at the same time, I think that, having cultural values which are similar to the old religious values of, you marry one person, you don’t cheat on them, you’re loyal to them, etc, are important regardless of whether you’re actually religious or not. I’m not saying everybody has to believe in God or anything, and we absolutely shouldn’t shun single parents because oftentimes, single parents wish they weren’t single, it’s just how stuff worked out. What I am saying is, in order to have a population who wants to have children and doesn’t want to abort, you need a culture that promotes *healthy* families that aren’t abusive where people are committed to each other. But in America at least, with all this "freedom" from corporations (porn and social media) also I’m not homophobic or anything, but more extreme LGBTQ+/alternative lifestyles kinda feed into that, it’s all sorta corporate propaganda that destroys traditional values. Although, being gay or being trans, that shouldn’t be illegal. I’m just saying, we don’t need the crazy weird fetishized stuff. I’m not anti gay or anti trans.
·Anonymous G — 9 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #667,510
@previous (G)
Although the one traditional value that is definitely bad is the cultural idea that men work to earn money and women raise the kids. Men and women should share equal responsibility in taking care of their children, and women can and should and need to work once their children are in school.
·ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 9 months ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #667,769
Yes there are super simple common sense driven ways to correct this retarded system. none of that is going to happen (better paternity/maternity leave, better education, better allocation of tax moneys)that isnt gonna happen, no matter what, it isnt gona get better lol just collapse so we can start over!!!!!!
+Anonymous H — 9 months ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #667,778
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
Accelerationism.