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Topic: IQ racism doesn’t make sense

+Anonymous A10 months ago #66,447

Whenever I see someone on the internet leave a comment somewhere saying white countries or Asian countries are successful because they have "high IQ" people, I sorta wonder how "high IQ" the people saying these things are. Because hypothetically, let’s imagine we live in a world where blacks are biologically less intelligent than whites and whites are biologically less intelligent than Asians (we don’t but let’s just create a new universe where that is true). Okay, so, imagine you’re a Japanese man. In this universe, you have a higher IQ relative to the world average. Except you live in Japan and everybody else in Japan is Japanese. So you’re actually not above average in terms of intelligence relative to everyone else in your society because you’re society is homogenous.

So now let’s say that in this hypothetical universe the "low IQ" races are the ones causing all the problems. So let’s say, the "high IQ" Japanese wipe all the black people and white people off the face of the Earth and 100% of Earth is Japanese. Well now you can’t call Japanese people "high IQ" anymore, because now the average Japanese IQ is the world average IQ. So being Japanese wouldn’t make you superior to anything and being a Japanese person wouldn’t make you superior to anyone.

It’s like, there’s this interesting thing, where intelligence is relative not absolute, and it is only possible to be smarter than everyone else in a room where everyone else is dumber than you. But a lot of people who think they’re smart seem to think all their problems would go away if they got rid of stupid people, and that they would still be smarter than average if everyone else was equally as smart as they are. Which if you really think about it, that’s not true. Being smart only advantages an individual because one individual can outmaneuver another individual. If everyone is equally smart everyone finds it equally hard to compete with everyone else which makes it harder for anyone to win. So you shouldn’t even want that in the first place if you are smart. And if you can’t see that, that might suggest you’re not as smart as you think you are in the first place.

I also feel like there’s this irony to stereotypes. Like what’s a stereotype of Africans? They’re all scammers and they scam white people out of their money. It’s even a thing that anti black racists say, that blacks are not trustworthy and we steal and lie. Hypothetically, if that is the case, that blacks are bad people because blacks make a fool out of other races, does a stupid person make a fool out of a smart person? Is that how the world works? Or is that just ego?

·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 10 minutes later[T] [B] #662,056

Now that I think about it, it’s even dumber than that. Because a racist person saying, "whites have high IQs, therefore I’m smarter than you because you’re black and I’m white," that’s conflating the concept of averages in a self contradictory way. On the one hand, thinking that requires a belief that you are the mean average of any group that you belong to. But on the other hand, it also requires thinking that you are exceptional for being the mean average of the group that you belong to. Which just, doesn’t make sense. If hypothetically white people on average did have a higher IQ than black people that wouldn’t mean that you individually have an average IQ for your race, you could be above or below the average as an individual, and so could any black person as an individual. So even in a universe where on average, whites are more intelligent than blacks, you couldn’t be 100% sure that if you were presented with one random white person and one random black person that the white person is smarter than the black person. But then at the same time, if you hypothetically are a white person who just so happens to have exactly the same IQ as the mean average IQ of white people, if you want to live in an ethnically homogenous white ethnostate, you would have a mean average IQ in that ethnostate, not a "higher than average" IQ. So if you like that you’re "high IQ" why would you rather be average IQ instead? Like it doesn’t make sense on so many levels.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 8 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #662,057

@previous (A)
It’s kinda like the same logic of "men are stronger than women." Yeah, on average, but if you take a 70 year old male cancer patient vs a female UFC fighter it’s like… people as individuals aren’t averages. Bragging that you’re probably average for the group you belong to doesn’t mean much of anything. Like imagine if I showed up to a fight and was like, "I’m a man, I have high muscle mass because of my biology." And I never went to the gym or trained at any form of martial arts in my life going up against a woman who did. It’s like… totally not brag worthy.
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