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I try and avoid Chinese propaganda because I know it’s propaganda and I understand that the Chinese government is bad. But at the same time, I find Chinese propaganda on the internet kinda annoying. They have a slightly smug attitude like, "aren’t we fucking clever" while they list off some flaws with America. But it’s like, they think they’re doing something and yet I already agree with basically everything. So what’s the point? Like they don’t really say anything false per se, they just only list negatives about America without listing positives. But the thing is, they are really lying about the negatives. "America is dangerous there are lots of shootings." Like… yeah that’s true, idk. TBH Chinese propaganda on the internet directed towards a western audience isn’t that great in general because it doesn’t have any real direction to it. It’s more like, "Hey did you know America is bad?" It’s like they think they’re being clever by telling Americans America is bad, like they don’t realize Americans already think that in the first place. Like just stating that America is bad won’t make Americans pro China. Russia is better at propaganda though. Although I think Russian propaganda has more of a right wing appeal, while Chinese propaganda has more of a moderate left leaning appeal. Because tbh, no matter what ideas Chinese propagandists come up with, it’s kinda hard to get a bunch of gun nuts who hate communism to like a country ruled by one communist party where guns are illegal. So they sorta don’t even bother. Although, they’re never going to align well with really radically left wing people, because China is authoritarian so they’re not gonna be for all the hippie dippie LGBTQ+ stuff. Although Chinese people though seem kinda predisposed to that once they aren’t living under an authoritarian government. Like Taiwan for example. They’re the one group of people that get more left wing once they leave their communist country instead of more right wing. Chinese people are literally the only culture that’s like that, and if I’m being honest, I’ve got no clue why. Really the annoying thing about it is the Chinese government thinks they’re being clever when they’re saying like basically nothing of substance. If I’m being honest, I try and avoid it if possible, but Chinese propaganda directed at a western audience on the internet seems like borderline moderate at best. Russia is basically just full Nazi mode. If it wasn’t for America being a common enemy I would not be surprised if Russia and China went to war with each other. They’ve got one thing in common, they’re both authoritarian and that’s it. Absolutely nothing else between them aligns ideologically. Take religion for example, Russia vs China. They’re not the same at all. China doesn’t even recognize the Russian Orthodox Church, but they recognize the Catholic Church in Rome, even while Putin is at war with the west. I’m not saying the CCP likes Catholicism, they definitely don’t, I’m just saying, that’s a pretty low bar! They don’t even treat the Orthodox Church with the same level of privilege as the Catholics Church when supposedly Putin is a Russian Orthodox Christian nationalist and they’re supposed to have "unlimited friendship." They’ve got "unlimited friendship" but Xi just doesn’t recognize Vladimir Putin’s religion, like okay.

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Tbh the more I think about it, Chinese people are weird. Everybody from post Soviet countries or Cuba or Venezuela or some type of socialist country, when they come to America, they become pro American anti capitalist conservative right wing libertarian types. But for some reason, in China, they have a left wing authoritarian government and a socially conservative society, but when Chinese people come to America, they become more socially progressive. Like that’s weird. Nobody else is like that. And then with the example of Taiwan, China is authoritarian so LGBTQ stuff isn’t a thing in China really. But in China, the people are socially conservative. Except, Taiwan is ethnically and culturally Chinese, but Taiwan isn’t authoritarian, and they’re like the only country in Asia that actually legalized gay marriage. It’s like Chinese people have this unusual predisposition towards becoming more socially progressive once they have freedom despite being very patriarchal when they’re living under a left wing authoritarian government. Like it’s just really unusual.

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The only equivalent I can think of is Arabs are a little bit similar. They tend to become more politically left leaning in the west, except because of their religion they stay socially conservative. Which actually makes Arabs kinda like black people. A lot of black people are very homophobic but will look at you like you’re insane if you ask them if they’re republican because they think republicans are racist… cuz they kinda are but that’s not the point. Although that could explain the Chinese thing. Eastern Europeans are white, Chinese people aren’t. Idk.

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Although actually, overall, I think Asians are actually less homophobic than black people on average.

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Or even Russian policy vs Chinese policy. There are school shootings in Russia because Russians are allowed to own guns. China doesn’t have school shootings because guns are illegal. Russia is more right wing. Although Russia technically doesn’t have the death penalty but China does, although that’s more of a cultural thing with Asians in general, so that’s probably not representative of political leaning as much.

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Or when Americans say Russia, China, and Iran are some new axis like Germany, Italy, and Japan during World War Two, it’s goofy if you think about it. A Christian nationalist country, a country with a fundamentally atheist Marxist government, and an Islamic religious theocracy teaming up to take over the world? Are you joking?

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If I’m being real, idk who’s propaganda I’m even falling for lol. TBH I don’t think I’m even really that opposed to Marxism in general. Americans say they hate China because China is Marxist, but honestly, if I had absolute control over the governmental policy of a nation the same way Xi Jinping does, (as a hypothetical), I’d probably enact policies that are actually more socialist leaning than anything that exists in China. Marxism is when the workers own the means of production. Unionization doesn’t exist in China, so it’s not Marxist, the workers literally don’t own the means of production so it’s not Marxist by definition. It’s state capitalism. Although there are other elements like state atheism that the Chinese government does have. I’m not a theocrat but I’m definitely not anti religion. But I think the whole Marxist idea that religion is opposed to socialism doesn’t make any sense. I mean you can quote the Bible all day and sound like a Marxist, "the love of money is the root of all evil," "it is easier for a camel to fight through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven." Really the problem with China isn’t the Marxism that doesn’t exist, it’s the authoritarianism. The Marxism is kinda, whatever. I don’t feel like that’s a big deal actually. The authoritarianism is the real problem.

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TLDR?

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Propaganda is made to make our meaningless lives meaningful by being part of a grand narrative, with a shared sense of purpose that glorifies sacrifice and obedience serving the interests of those in power.
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This, so much this.

(Edited 6 minutes later.)

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> TLDR?

It’s almost as long as my penis

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