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Topic: American spies
+Anonymous A — 10 months ago #66,429
I guess it’s hard to know the answer to this question because of the nature of it. Every so often, an American will get arrested somewhere like North Korea or Russia, or China, and these countries will claim they arrested an American spy and then the US government and media will say it was an unlawful arrest. I don’t doubt that authoritarian countries arrest people wrongfully. If they think you might be a spy, they have zero incentive to not arrest you regardless of whether you actually are one or not. But at the same time… America has to have spies in Russia and China though, right? Like, how often are people who were "wrongfully detained" in another country actually American spies for real?
Then there’s also the case of… I’m not really sure how to say it exactly. Because often times people who are racist against Chinese people will call any Chinese person who does anything wrong in America a CCP spy. That’s not what I’m saying. I’m just saying, Americans can never become Chinese citizens, but Chinese can become American citizens. Most people in China are ethnically Chinese, they’re Asian. It’s not because Chinese people are racist or anything, it’s just because Chinese people come from China but white people aren’t native to North America, so it is what it is. America is less ethnically homogenous by nature. So if you think about it, if every year, there are thousands of students from mainland China coming to the United States, and some of them end up saying here and living here and becoming US citizens, but the Chinese government doesn’t allow Americans to become American citizens… might that make it easier for China to spy on the United States as opposed to the other way around? Like I’m not saying all Chinese Americans are spies or anything. I’m just saying like… if they were, nobody is trying to stop them lol.
Or I guess on the right in the United States, there’s this thing against affirmative action because it’s racist to have blacks in colleges because Asians are smarter (so it’s racist to not be racist according to them). And maybe Chinese people are smart… but are white people smart for giving citizens of an authoritarian enemy of the United States Ivy League engineering degrees? Like what?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 4 minutes later[T] [B] #661,932
Then Americans complain that "oh China is stealing our technology" meanwhile NASA is bragging about how they open sourced the computer vision software for their Mars rover like… you can’t steal shit if you make the shit free, that’s not how it works.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,933
@previous (A)
"We have an open and free society and they’re stealing all the intellectual property we made available to them! How could this happen!"
+Anonymous B — 10 months ago, 30 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,934
@661,932 (A)
I think China should steal more, fuck America.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 17 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,935
@661,933 (A)
Although the Chinese did invent rockets tho so Americans saying the Chinese stole American rocket technology every time China launches a rocket is pretty funny.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 10 months ago, 6 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,938
@661,934 (B)
> I think China should steal more, fuck America.
Tbh I don’t really like America’s approach to China. Like the whole idea we can halt the technological progress of 1.4 billion people is silly. We should focus more on improving our own society instead of trying to undermine another. Like the competition between the US and the USSR during the space race for example. The best way to compete is just by bettering ourselves through our own technological progress. The US spies on our allies, that’s been leaked several times in the past, everybody in the world knows it. If allies spy on each other, we should also expect that with enemies it’s even worse. Everybody knows everything about everyone else, it’s better to assume that secrets don’t really exist.