Topic: Libertarians
+Anonymous A — 11 months ago #66,368
You ever notice how people who call themselves libertarians tend to be the most authoritarian people? It’s like they get some idea in their head that everybody else on the planet has to abide by their very specific definition of "freedom." People would hate me for this if I ever said this in real life, but I notice this the most with "free speech" people. My university made me sit through some long condescending course on "free speech" before I could be a student here, saying, "You can’t ask us to silence people even if you disagree with them because the solution to speech is more speech." But then these fuckers arrest students for protesting all the time and whenever they do they just say, "We support free speech." But they keep arresting people! I’m convinced that "free speech" is just virtue signaling. Nobody actually believes in it. What’s that saying? Actions speak louder than words. People say they believe in it, but nobody does. I’m not saying I’m different. I’m just being honest about it. Like, okay, I get that people should be allowed to criticize the government, I believe in that. I believe in that protection. But at some point, it’s just kinda retarded, isn’t it? "The solution to speech is more speech." So we should just let retarded people make retarded arguments and let it turn into a shouting match when they don’t listen to reason instead of being actually productive? Not everyone is smart and everyone’s thoughts don’t matter. We aren’t all equal. I believe groups of people are equal. You can’t say on individual person is worse than another individual person because of their race or their sex or something like that. But you can for sure say somebody is dumber than somebody else. There are no shortcuts to it though. You can’t say everybody of a certain group is bad. People who are stupid enough to think that way are the first people I would get rid of. They are a stain on the human race and don’t deserve to exist.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 11 months ago, 6 minutes later[T] [B] #661,508
Debate is based on a fallacy anyway. Just because you win an argument doesn’t make you correct. Take this for example:
Person A: "I believe that 2 + 2 is 3"
Person B: "2 + 2 is 4 because everyone who thinks 2 + 2 is 3 is a pedophile."
So person B just committed a logical fallacy, therefore person A won the argument and I guess 2 + 2 is 3 now. Like arguments aren’t even real. This idea that truth will win out in debate is false. People do not want to know the truth. People want to see proven what they already want to be the truth. If you play into that, it’s shocking how easy it is to manipulate people if you know what their desires are. Even people who hate you, they want to believe so badly that you agree with them and that you like them, if you play into it, you can even get people to hate you to do things. Most people are not smart and you’re better off not treating them as if they are smart.
Person A: "I believe that 2 + 2 is 3"
Person B: "2 + 2 is 4 because everyone who thinks 2 + 2 is 3 is a pedophile."
So person B just committed a logical fallacy, therefore person A won the argument and I guess 2 + 2 is 3 now. Like arguments aren’t even real. This idea that truth will win out in debate is false. People do not want to know the truth. People want to see proven what they already want to be the truth. If you play into that, it’s shocking how easy it is to manipulate people if you know what their desires are. Even people who hate you, they want to believe so badly that you agree with them and that you like them, if you play into it, you can even get people to hate you to do things. Most people are not smart and you’re better off not treating them as if they are smart.
+Anonymous B — 11 months ago, 18 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,509
Not being cynical or anything, but when was the last time somebody said "I’m being silenced" and they had something important to say? 99% of the time it’s psychotic dumbasses that think the voices in their head are God telling them the frogs are gay and they need to kill their brother to save humanity. That’s an exaggeration, but you get the idea.
+Anonymous C — 11 months ago, 12 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,512
But anyway, that’s one thing I don’t believe in. Another thing I don’t believe in is moral responsibility. Like, as kids we’re taught that our country is the good country and all the other countries are the bad countries and we are good and there are bad people and we aren’t like the bad people! Then some people take that with them into adulthood. But I’ve actually stopped feeling guilt for anything anymore, and I have a reason for it! People will shame me when I have done nothing wrong because they don’t like me for one reason or another, maybe it’s some prejudice against some thing, maybe they’re just assholes, either way. And, when other people make mistakes, everybody is the good guy in their own story, so if someone does something against me, they will try and blame me for it regardless. So if we are all sinners, how am I different from you? If I do something wrong, so did you. Whenever someone comes at me with something they want me to feel guilty for, I just ask myself one question: if this is the only life I’m going to live, if I really am wrong for this, am I going to let it stop me? And the answer is no. Life is life, mistakes will be made, don’t become less aggressive just because you were wrong. Be wrong and keep moving. If someone stands in their way, get around them. If they won’t let you move around them, get rid of them. Just get to the destination. That’s all life is. People with power want us to feel shame because that’s what keeps us from attaining what they have. If you think about history, why is Europe rich? Slavery and colonialism. But oh no, the Africans can’t have an empire and enslave Europe because that would be "evil" they need to follow "western values" (that were made up after the fact) and earn it the hard way instead! Like it’s bullshit. Do what you gotta do to get what you gotta get. That’s it. If you die in the process, you die in the process. Any repentance save for purgatory in the afterlife with God. In this life, get shit done without mercy.
+Anonymous D — 11 months ago, 8 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #661,513
@previous (C)
Don’t get me wrong though, there ARE examples of countries which did "do it the hard way" through capitalism and democracy that white people loooooooove to compare Africans too. Japan for example. They got nuked twice, Tokyo got firebombed, and now they have no military, their country has permanent American military bases, they don’t have nuclear weapons when all their enemies, China, North Korea, and Russia have nuclear weapons because America won’t let them, but they’re rich now so they shut up about it and praise white people. Whites say the Japanese have a better culture than the Africans, and maybe they do. A lot of them are Buddhist, so they believe in reincarnation. Maybe a culture like that is more inclined to forgiveness and maybe that’s more "ethical" or something. But if I’m being honest, in my heart, I am not forgiving, and I don’t desire to be forgiving. If I had a magic switch I could flip today to turn the world upside down, I wouldn’t feel sad for you. The only thing stopping me is what I CAN do. I want more capabilities.
Don’t get me wrong though, there ARE examples of countries which did "do it the hard way" through capitalism and democracy that white people loooooooove to compare Africans too. Japan for example. They got nuked twice, Tokyo got firebombed, and now they have no military, their country has permanent American military bases, they don’t have nuclear weapons when all their enemies, China, North Korea, and Russia have nuclear weapons because America won’t let them, but they’re rich now so they shut up about it and praise white people. Whites say the Japanese have a better culture than the Africans, and maybe they do. A lot of them are Buddhist, so they believe in reincarnation. Maybe a culture like that is more inclined to forgiveness and maybe that’s more "ethical" or something. But if I’m being honest, in my heart, I am not forgiving, and I don’t desire to be forgiving. If I had a magic switch I could flip today to turn the world upside down, I wouldn’t feel sad for you. The only thing stopping me is what I CAN do. I want more capabilities.
+Anonymous E — 11 months ago, 28 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #661,516
@previous (D)
The ironic part is people hate China and love Japan because in Japan people are free as individuals but in China they are not. Yet as a collective, China is more autonomous than Japan is. No one is in control of China but China. The Japanese are beneath America and will remain so. The ideal would be to have both, maybe? In the Wes people say collectivism is evil. But honestly, I don’t think that it is evil. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Individualism and collectivism can coexist. You can do what is good for individuals while also doing what is good for your nation and for your race at the same time. I want that for black people. I want us to be free as individuals without our nations being enslaved. China is a free nation with enslaved individuals. Japan is an enslaved nation with free individuals. At least that’s how I see it. Nobody will agree with it. But that doesn’t change anything.
The ironic part is people hate China and love Japan because in Japan people are free as individuals but in China they are not. Yet as a collective, China is more autonomous than Japan is. No one is in control of China but China. The Japanese are beneath America and will remain so. The ideal would be to have both, maybe? In the Wes people say collectivism is evil. But honestly, I don’t think that it is evil. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Individualism and collectivism can coexist. You can do what is good for individuals while also doing what is good for your nation and for your race at the same time. I want that for black people. I want us to be free as individuals without our nations being enslaved. China is a free nation with enslaved individuals. Japan is an enslaved nation with free individuals. At least that’s how I see it. Nobody will agree with it. But that doesn’t change anything.
+Anonymous F — 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,522
@661,513 (D)
I just realized that people aren’t going to understand the subtext to the "and maybe they do." That part shouldn’t be taken at face value. I’m not saying "and maybe they do" to the benefit of the Japanese. I’m saying, maybe it’s a better culture for white people, which is why they like it. White people can’t accept that for blacks, it’s not over yet. They say "it was 200 years ago blah blah blah." Africa is poor, NOW. The whole issue I have with "the west" isn’t over. At least not with my personality I guess. Nothing is ever over with me until I’ve won. I should speak for myself, as far as I’m concerned, time has no end. There have been thousands of years of history, but there will be no end to history. Blacks haven’t actually lost yet. People don’t realize this. By the end of the century, white majority nations and also East Asian nations will have collapsing populations. By the end of the next century, the balance of power in the world will look completely unrecognizable.
I just realized that people aren’t going to understand the subtext to the "and maybe they do." That part shouldn’t be taken at face value. I’m not saying "and maybe they do" to the benefit of the Japanese. I’m saying, maybe it’s a better culture for white people, which is why they like it. White people can’t accept that for blacks, it’s not over yet. They say "it was 200 years ago blah blah blah." Africa is poor, NOW. The whole issue I have with "the west" isn’t over. At least not with my personality I guess. Nothing is ever over with me until I’ve won. I should speak for myself, as far as I’m concerned, time has no end. There have been thousands of years of history, but there will be no end to history. Blacks haven’t actually lost yet. People don’t realize this. By the end of the century, white majority nations and also East Asian nations will have collapsing populations. By the end of the next century, the balance of power in the world will look completely unrecognizable.
+Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,555
It's really hard to follow the conversation you're having with yourself using multiple IDs, but lolbertarianism is an ideology created to create materialists devoid of empathy, and the guy with the gold makes the rules in a world where might makes right, yet those who want to be wise in the eyes of the world will always face a harsher judgement. The corrupt try to avoid scrutiny so scapegoating others becomes necessity to them. This is why it's impossible to know the future, the distractions they create are meant to erase the past in an effort to cover up their crimes. There is no end to the world's greed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVANRroxuOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVANRroxuOo
+Anonymous H — 11 months ago, 21 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,559
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 14 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,560
+Chuffed !3qyf8DDj3w — 11 months ago, 3 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,562
@OP
> "We support fre.e spee.ch." But they keep arresting people! I’m convinced that "fre.e spee.ch" is just virtue signaling.
Same with the banned books people. They're fine with fre.e spee.ch as long as it aligns with their values. They don't actually want all banned books brought back.
@661,555 (G)
> the guy with the gold makes the rules in a world where might makes right, yet those who want to be wise in the eyes of the world will always face a harsher judgement.
I'm trying to survive in a life that champions stomping on other people to succeed. I just look out for those closest to me (family, friends, neighbors, immediate department of coworkers at work, etc). It's cost me rank and money, but people know they can count on me.
> "We support fre.e spee.ch." But they keep arresting people! I’m convinced that "fre.e spee.ch" is just virtue signaling.
Same with the banned books people. They're fine with fre.e spee.ch as long as it aligns with their values. They don't actually want all banned books brought back.
@661,555 (G)
> the guy with the gold makes the rules in a world where might makes right, yet those who want to be wise in the eyes of the world will always face a harsher judgement.
I'm trying to survive in a life that champions stomping on other people to succeed. I just look out for those closest to me (family, friends, neighbors, immediate department of coworkers at work, etc). It's cost me rank and money, but people know they can count on me.
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,572
@previous (Chuffed !3qyf8DDj3w)
Solidarity and subsidiarity that seeks the common good can only work in a less polarized and atomized society, but since the puppet masters have the many distracted all we can do is not play the game and do as you have said. Detachment from the world can bring a certain clarity if one is not demoralized and apathetic to it.
Solidarity and subsidiarity that seeks the common good can only work in a less polarized and atomized society, but since the puppet masters have the many distracted all we can do is not play the game and do as you have said. Detachment from the world can bring a certain clarity if one is not demoralized and apathetic to it.
+Anonymous J — 11 months ago, 10 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,574
·Anonymous I — 11 months ago, 23 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,575
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 32 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,576
I'm allergic to ginger.+Anonymous K — 11 months ago, 23 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,581
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,583
@previous (K)
I never claimed to be a vegan, but beavers need their hides removed b4 they're edible.
I never claimed to be a vegan, but beavers need their hides removed b4 they're edible.
+Anonymous L — 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,592
@661,555 (G)
Using an "anonymous" site without clearing your cookies and constantly changing your ip address seems like it defeats the purpose of an anonymous website.
Using an "anonymous" site without clearing your cookies and constantly changing your ip address seems like it defeats the purpose of an anonymous website.
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 11 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,594
@previous (L)
> clearing your cookies and constantly changing your ip address
I don't see any need for that since I have nothing to hide and don't use deceptive tactics to manipulate others. I can navigate by the tells of others since everyone tells on themselves but never felt the need to samefag. I consider it a form of cheating, but that's just me. You do you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auiAKIbVCxc
> clearing your cookies and constantly changing your ip address
I don't see any need for that since I have nothing to hide and don't use deceptive tactics to manipulate others. I can navigate by the tells of others since everyone tells on themselves but never felt the need to samefag. I consider it a form of cheating, but that's just me. You do you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auiAKIbVCxc
+Anonymous M — 11 months ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,625
@previous (G)
> I don't see any need for that since I have nothing to hide and don't use deceptive tactics to manipulate others.
It’s better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.
> I don't see any need for that since I have nothing to hide and don't use deceptive tactics to manipulate others.
It’s better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.
·Anonymous G — 11 months ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,626
@previous (M)
> It’s better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.
Necessity is the mother of invention just as repetition is the mother of all learning.
> It’s better to have it and not need it than it is to need it and not have it.
Necessity is the mother of invention just as repetition is the mother of all learning.
+Anonymous N — 11 months ago, 54 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,627
I asked ChatGPT to summarise OPs posts.
·Anonymous H — 11 months ago, 3 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[T] [B] #661,631
@661,592 (L)
Just don't get mad when your posts start disappearing because staff can't tell you from the bots.
Just don't get mad when your posts start disappearing because staff can't tell you from the bots.