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Topic: will start my anime if i can solv this

+Anonymous A4.4 years ago #61,288

IMG_20211201_210052.jpg.... basically the way to draw everything and anything correctly and have it look natural and correct... like this bike from below is abit too short or squashed and i dunno how to fix it since it tends to look wronk still

any mathemathical model maybe lol

+Anonymous B4.4 years ago, 54 minutes later[T] [B] #623,116

3D (CAD) reference models

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #623,118

@previous (B)
...i had imagined this would be more fundamental than CAD.

·Anonymous B4.4 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #623,119

@previous (A)
CAD would allow you to rotate the camera angle to view an object such as the bike from below, and wouldn't require you to store hundreds of physical models. Also you can download 3D models of pretty much anything on the internet.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #623,120

@previous (B)
you d also need to modify the model everytime for every image. it s "drawing" not tracing.

i had imagined there d be a more fundamental mmodel of thinking, like with math or geometry. something smart and hard to understand but nevertheless fundamental i guess.
https://youtu.be/Wvy8SbSX-8o

i didnt got into math well unfortunately so now im looking to catch up

·Anonymous B4.4 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,127

@previous (A)
You ask for something that's difficult to understand, but you haven't really demonstrated any commitment to actually going through with the hard stuff, so I offer you the simplest solution I can think of off the top of my head. If you were committed, you'd do the legwork yourself instead of asking others to hand it to you on a silver platter.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,135

@previous (B) i dont see if it ll work. the guy didnt use models to do so why would i? i dont want to do this legwork you arent sure will work anyway. it may not even work for you.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,136

@623,127 (B)
also it s not actually simple since you d need to have CAD and possess say... infinite amount of models to do infinite amount of solutions(yed i may have not specified it)

https://youtu.be/aoqu5SEFqRI

like this guys since he has like infinite amount of variations, do i also have to do infinite amount of files?

+Anonymous C4.4 years ago, 49 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,137

Are the tail feathers supposed to spell 'doesn't feel ok?

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,138

@previous (C)
that is correct but i dunno whats a tail feather

·Anonymous C4.4 years ago, 34 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,139

@previous (A)
Shit...me neither apparently

·Anonymous B4.4 years ago, 4 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,155

@623,137 (C)
It's a hand. At least that was the impression I got.

@623,136 (A)
Without actually taking time to watch the video, I'm gonna guess this guy has years of practice. I suggested CAD as a shortcut because it would allow you to see something from any angle and doesn't require years of fine-tuning to get a relatively decent result. Developing a natural eye for how things should look from whatever angle is also an option but it requires practice.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #623,159

@previous (B)
yes that is a correct statement... both the hand and the video.

is there any other option? i was expecting something less of a cheat or talent, like formulaic research and informed decision. A tool and procedure of sorts. some would call it a shortcut maybe but not really. less of a computerized CAD and sort of on paper foundational calculation?

i was expecting a more mathemathical, geometric understanding of space, perspective and screen space coordinates. so it is more of a conscious choice than automatic reflex... though part of it also means i dont wanna make that much of mistakes either....

like... especially since i did not take math and science are supposed to be life solution(since we are supposed to choose between science and social and i didnt make it to science and social classes were mostly losers and missouts)... i thought i had missed something more structured approach in thinking... something more than just " practicing perspective and boxes" like maybe forming stuffs and things in perspective naturally

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·Anonymous B4.4 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #623,182

@previous (A)
I'm not sure that a mathematical model exists for your purposes beyond just understanding geometry.

The thing is, everyone seeks to understand the world through their talents.
IE, musicians seek to understand through sound; artists seek to understand through sight and form; mathemeticians seek to understand through mathematical models.
My point being, if what you seek does exist, it would be exceedingly complicated and require an extensive background in math to appreciate, let alone utilize. You admit to lacking instruction in math and science, and I can tell from your images that you are gifted with some level of artistic talent, so developing an innate sense of perspective is probably your best option, however tiresome it may be.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 4.4 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #623,199

@previous (B)
....huh? that s very, um, out of this world? i only seek a mathemathical model that will help me make enough of an informed decision so all my drawings are proportionally and perspectively correct... even if it is complex then it just has to exist, known. a concrete answer at least.
like the image above: does it look natural enough that the tire is NOT shorter than the body? the issue is trivial especially since other subjects are easier to me so having a solid, um, idea is what i expect so i dont need to wonder about this matter again, or make somewhat obvious enough of the mistake.

+♥♡❤♡♥ Godmau5 ♥♡❤♡♥ !.xgodmaU5o4.4 years ago, 15 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #623,223

I think you actually designed master yoda, sir.

+Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U4.4 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #623,237

I thought it was a spaceship

·Anonymous C4.4 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #623,255

Okay now that's not a tail feathers or a hand, it looks like the explosion where the motorcycle maybe came from, from afar

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