Topic: A quick word to the wise about a ban - AND that misuse of the word Stalking
+Anonymous A — 6.4 years ago #55,054
Syntax was not banned for stalking - There is no such thing- rule - whatever -Sure Syntax is curious and loves doing research If that results in 2close for comfort tough titty.
Syntax pulled the recent ban for making fun of Matts dad. His dad is older than Syntax and has been in and out of Hospice several times recently. Matt's dad has never exercised Except to lift money from clients wallets and run away with it
Oh and notice those Southern States on the Graph LOLOLOLOL
Drunks/Drug/Users like Bert in Tennessee and Scat obsessed Matt in Louisiana.
Ya all have a nice New Years Eve and best guess is that U will be posting on the internet or as Bert does inbetween - Looking for Kiddie Porn. For those unaware Bert outed himself as a Pedophile and was busted by becky.
+Anonymous B — 6.4 years ago, 4 minutes later[T] [B] #579,580
Ok Syntax.
Love how you're talking about yourself in third person, btw.
Love how you're talking about yourself in third person, btw.
+Anonymous C — 6.4 years ago, 8 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #579,581
@previous (B)IF Syntax had the time he wood pull up a list of most famous people who talked in 3rd as well as 5th person
Alas a neighbor of Syntax's is about to open a rare bottle of Bourbon. Syntax has a reasonable assortment of left over aged cheeses from France Portugal and Italy to share. Doubt the Bourbon is up to the Roquefort but noting lost in giving it a go
Remind Syntax NEXT Year to pull up the list of 3rd Person of Fame
+Anonymous D — 6.4 years ago, 12 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #579,625
Syntax, what you do, by any definition, is stalking.
+Anonymous E — 6.4 years ago, 4 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #579,642
+Anonymous F — 6.4 years ago, 21 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #579,647
@OP
LOGORRHEA!
LOGORRHEA!
+ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 6.4 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,675
+Writing coach — 6.4 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,678
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
> u cant speak in 5th person
What could be a possible example of fourth/fifth/etc. person narration that has been used or might be used.
This question (and at least one of the answers) is confusing numbered 'persons' which is a technical term in grammar and refers to which conjugated form is being used with both a more general meaning of person and with the notion of 1st/2nd/3rd parties, and possibly also what we mean by 1st hand, 2nd hand and primary witness, secondary witness, tertiary witness, and so on.
In grammar there are 1st, 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th persons, singular and plural which make up the six conjugated forms of a verb in English. For instance the horribly irregular verb to be conjugated as follows:
These terms are used when describing narrative voice, because they correspond to the conjugated form that is used by the narrator, for instance Raymond Chandler habitually uses the 1st person:
It was one of the mixed blocks over on Central Avenue, the blocks that are not yet all negro. I had just come out of a three-chair barber shop where an agency thought a relief barber named Dimitrios Aleidis might be working. It was a small matter. His wife said she was willing to spend a little money to have him come home.
In Bright Lights, Big City, Jay McInerney uses the second person:
You are not the kind of guy who would be at a place like this at this time in the morning. But here you are, and you cannot say the terrain is entirely unfamiliar, although the details are fuzzy. You are at a nightclub talking to a girl with a shaved head. The club is either Heartbreak or the Lizard lounge. All might become clear if you could just slip into the bathroom and do a little more Bolivian Marching Powder. Then again, it might not.
While most books (like this example from Jane Austen) use the 3rd person: (Currently as seen in the new Little Women movie)
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.
However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighborhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered the rightful property of one or other of their daughters.
In grammar at least, there are no persons beyond the 3rd, including the 7th. The indefinite person (the rarely used 'one,' as in one should not eat with one's mouth open) is considered a 3rd person, since in almost all of the languages with a common European root, the form of the verb used is the 3rd person singular.
In contractual relationships (and more generally in exchanges of goods and services), everything is considered ultimately to be being exchanged between two parties - called the first, 2nd and third parties or more. In most contracts and agreements, there's no need to decide which is the first party and which the second, but there are conventions, such as in the sale of assets, the seller is generally considered the first party, and the buyer the second. Anyone else involved is a third party, no matter how many others are involved. In the sale of real-estate, for instance, both the REA and your lawyer are third parties. If some of the money is being loaned, then the lender is a third party. That makes three third parties. A second or third loan may contain 4th, 5th, or even 11th parties.
This is because these terms, just like 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person in grammar, are not an attempt to count anything. They are just labels. Labels may have connective legal values that exceed the first party norms.
However, when we refer to pre-owned goods (or rumors) as being 2nd hand, 3rd hand or even more hand, we are counting. So there's no limit.
The same is theoretically true of testimony; a primary witness saw the crime. A secondary witness was told about the crime by a primary witness, et ainsi de suite (and so on...). In this case, we are counting.
A necessary and interesting point is what happens when in narrative, we add layers of recursion or abstraction. So the narrator is telling the story of Mary in what is called by both grammarians and literary theorists the 3rd person:
Mary went to the theater.
But the author wants to draw parallels between (I'm going to pick a different play, just because I think the parallels would work better in a modern novel) what happens later on to Mary, and what happens to Desdemona in the play. It is important, therefore, that the reader understand the very subtle way in which Cassio is defamed by Iago. So the author has to describe Mary watching the fictional character Iago telling lies about Cassio. Iago needed only hint at for Othello to form his own conviction that Cassio had betrayed his trust.
In narrative terms, this is a 3rd hand fiction; the narrator describes Mary who hears Iago talking about Cassio. (A 1st hand fiction is just the Narrator talking about Mary). In both grammatical and literary terms, however, it remains 3rd person:
Mary went to the theater to see Shakespeare's tragedy Othello. She watched as Iago gradually corrupted Othello's view of Cassio; although Cassio was a good man, Mary could see that Othello was so convinced of Iago's honesty that Iago needed only hint at for Othello to form his own conviction that Cassio had betrayed his trust.
> u cant speak in 5th person
What could be a possible example of fourth/fifth/etc. person narration that has been used or might be used.
This question (and at least one of the answers) is confusing numbered 'persons' which is a technical term in grammar and refers to which conjugated form is being used with both a more general meaning of person and with the notion of 1st/2nd/3rd parties, and possibly also what we mean by 1st hand, 2nd hand and primary witness, secondary witness, tertiary witness, and so on.
In grammar there are 1st, 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and 6th persons, singular and plural which make up the six conjugated forms of a verb in English. For instance the horribly irregular verb to be conjugated as follows:
These terms are used when describing narrative voice, because they correspond to the conjugated form that is used by the narrator, for instance Raymond Chandler habitually uses the 1st person:
It was one of the mixed blocks over on Central Avenue, the blocks that are not yet all negro. I had just come out of a three-chair barber shop where an agency thought a relief barber named Dimitrios Aleidis might be working. It was a small matter. His wife said she was willing to spend a little money to have him come home.
In Bright Lights, Big City, Jay McInerney uses the second person:
You are not the kind of guy who would be at a place like this at this time in the morning. But here you are, and you cannot say the terrain is entirely unfamiliar, although the details are fuzzy. You are at a nightclub talking to a girl with a shaved head. The club is either Heartbreak or the Lizard lounge. All might become clear if you could just slip into the bathroom and do a little more Bolivian Marching Powder. Then again, it might not.
While most books (like this example from Jane Austen) use the 3rd person: (Currently as seen in the new Little Women movie)
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.
However little known the feelings or views of such a man may be on his first entering a neighborhood, this truth is so well fixed in the minds of the surrounding families, that he is considered the rightful property of one or other of their daughters.
In grammar at least, there are no persons beyond the 3rd, including the 7th. The indefinite person (the rarely used 'one,' as in one should not eat with one's mouth open) is considered a 3rd person, since in almost all of the languages with a common European root, the form of the verb used is the 3rd person singular.
In contractual relationships (and more generally in exchanges of goods and services), everything is considered ultimately to be being exchanged between two parties - called the first, 2nd and third parties or more. In most contracts and agreements, there's no need to decide which is the first party and which the second, but there are conventions, such as in the sale of assets, the seller is generally considered the first party, and the buyer the second. Anyone else involved is a third party, no matter how many others are involved. In the sale of real-estate, for instance, both the REA and your lawyer are third parties. If some of the money is being loaned, then the lender is a third party. That makes three third parties. A second or third loan may contain 4th, 5th, or even 11th parties.
This is because these terms, just like 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person in grammar, are not an attempt to count anything. They are just labels. Labels may have connective legal values that exceed the first party norms.
However, when we refer to pre-owned goods (or rumors) as being 2nd hand, 3rd hand or even more hand, we are counting. So there's no limit.
The same is theoretically true of testimony; a primary witness saw the crime. A secondary witness was told about the crime by a primary witness, et ainsi de suite (and so on...). In this case, we are counting.
A necessary and interesting point is what happens when in narrative, we add layers of recursion or abstraction. So the narrator is telling the story of Mary in what is called by both grammarians and literary theorists the 3rd person:
Mary went to the theater.
But the author wants to draw parallels between (I'm going to pick a different play, just because I think the parallels would work better in a modern novel) what happens later on to Mary, and what happens to Desdemona in the play. It is important, therefore, that the reader understand the very subtle way in which Cassio is defamed by Iago. So the author has to describe Mary watching the fictional character Iago telling lies about Cassio. Iago needed only hint at for Othello to form his own conviction that Cassio had betrayed his trust.
In narrative terms, this is a 3rd hand fiction; the narrator describes Mary who hears Iago talking about Cassio. (A 1st hand fiction is just the Narrator talking about Mary). In both grammatical and literary terms, however, it remains 3rd person:
Mary went to the theater to see Shakespeare's tragedy Othello. She watched as Iago gradually corrupted Othello's view of Cassio; although Cassio was a good man, Mary could see that Othello was so convinced of Iago's honesty that Iago needed only hint at for Othello to form his own conviction that Cassio had betrayed his trust.
(Edited 45 seconds later.)
·ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 6.4 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,679
i googled it said theres only up to 3
·ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 6.4 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,680
im so confuse
+Anonymous I — 6.4 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,683
@previous (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
Imagine making 5 fb accounts, and talking to yourself on all five. There ya go.
Syntax is good for doing that here and on MC.
And be careful ducky, he might try grooming you next.
Imagine making 5 fb accounts, and talking to yourself on all five. There ya go.
Syntax is good for doing that here and on MC.
And be careful ducky, he might try grooming you next.
·hint (OP) — 6.4 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,685
@579,680 (ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
"1st hand, 2nd hand and primary witness, secondary witness, tertiary witness, and so on."
Google "tertiary"
"1st hand, 2nd hand and primary witness, secondary witness, tertiary witness, and so on."
Google "tertiary"
+Anonymous J — 6.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #579,695
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