Topic: Alabama lawmaker wants to ban smoking in vehicles when children are passengers
+Anonymous A — 7.9 years ago #51,314
Alabama lawmaker wants to ban smoking in vehicles when children are passengers
https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/smoking_car_alabama_child.html+Anonymous B — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later[T] [B] #549,773
@OP
What's your take on this story?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #549,774
Americans should understand that they are slaves now.
The US is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state.
Why obey the law if the government and illegal immigrants don't?
Everything is fake and a lie now.
You can either:
Work hard to pay taxes that fund welfare, illegal aliens, tyranny, wars, and debt and live with regret when the US Ponzi economy collapses and Americans get sent to the concentration camps.
OR
Be dependent on welfare.
OR
Break the law working off the books.
OR
Waste your life trying to warn people of the dangers of war, debt, and tyranny.
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+Anonymous C — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,778
I think this should be a law. Why should your kids pay bc you're addicted to cigarettes?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,784
There was a time when Americans believed in freedom.
The US is dying from a million cuts. Part of the reason the USA is a nanny police state now is that whenever there is a problem, the kneejerk reaction in the US is to call for a new law.
Nanny state laws are not the best solution, however. Nanny state laws lead to more laws, higher fines, and tougher sentences. Thirty-five years ago, DWI laws were enacted that led to DWI checkpoints and lower DWI levels. Seatbelt laws led to backseat seatbelt laws, childseat laws, and pet seatbelt laws. Car liability insurance laws led to health insurance laws and gun liability laws. Smoking laws that banned smoking in buildings led to laws against smoking in parks and then bans against smoking in entire cities. Sex offender registration laws led to sex offender restriction laws and violent offender registration laws.
Nanny state laws don't make us safer, either. Nanny state laws lead people to be careless since they don't need to have personal responsibility anymore. People don't need to be careful crossing the street now because drunk-driving has been outlawed and driving while using a mobile phone is illegal. People don't investigate companies or carry out due diligence because businesses must have business licenses now.
The main point of nanny state laws is not safety. The main purposes of more laws are control and revenue generation for the state.
Another reason laws are enacted is because corporations give donations to lawmakers to stifle competition or increase sales.
Many laws are contradictory, too. Some laws say watering lawns is required, while other laws say watering lawns is illegal.
Many nanny state laws that aim to solve a problem can be fixed by using existing laws. If assault is already illegal, why do we need a new law that outlaws hitting umpires?
Do laws even work? Heroin is illegal, but do people still use heroin?
Nanny state laws are not even necessary. If everything was legal would you steal, murder, and use crack cocaine? Aren't there other ways to solve problems besides calling the police? Couldn't people educate or talk to people who bother them? Can't people boycott businesses they hate? Couldn't people be sued for annoying behavior? Couldn't people just move away? Even if assault was legal, wouldn't attackers risk being killed or injured, too? Do people have consciences? Having no laws doesn't mean actions have no consequences.
If there is no victim, there is no crime.
We don't need thousands of laws when we only need 10.
Should swimming pools be banned because they are dangerous? Hammers? Bottles? Rocks? Energy drinks? Pillows?
Where does it end?
If one state can have self-serve gas stations, why can't every state have them? If sodas were legal 20 years ago, why can't they be legal now?
Freedom is not just a one way street. You can only have freedom for yourself if you allow others to have it.
Control freaks might get angry when a neighbor owns three indoor cats, but what did the neighbor take from them? Why should this be illegal? Is outlawing cats something a free country should do? Doesn't banning everything sound like the opposite of liberty?
Instead of getting mad at people who like freedom, why don't people realize that freedom is a two way street?
If you allow others to paint their house purple then you can, too.
If you allow others to own a gun then you can, too.
If you allow others to swear then you can, too.
If you allow others to gamble then you can, too.
Good men don't need laws. Bad men won't obey laws.
Who wants to live in a prison?
Think. Question everything.
+On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,785
WOW. Just, WOW.
OP think it is ok to smoke and suffocate the children in car with your toxic cloud.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,787
Jesus Christ, how did we ever survive without this law?
Should we ban cats because cats might be beaten?
Endangered animals wouldn't be so endangered if people could own them. Owners don't have a vested interest in destroying their own property.
What country is this?
·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 24 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,788
@previous (A)
> Should we ban cats because cats might be beaten?
no, cat abusers should be banned, and we have laws for it.
same for this ban, it's banning those irresponsible, selfish, and ignorant smokers who smokes in a car with children,
not banning smokes, not banning cars, and definitely not banning children.
nice try on logic twisting tho, do better next time.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,795
Americans used to have balls.
The US is supposed to be a free country.
https://www.victoriaadvocate.com/news/features/faith/the-land-of-the-free-and-the-home-of-the/article_37473af6-643e-11e8-b299-6fbcdf04047e.html
https://www.richmond.com/sports/plus/woody-this-is-the-land-of-the-free-and-the/article_9d8d417b-281a-5aec-a769-88cbbd0229a0.html
Why did the USA fight for freedom against the British, Hitler, North Korea, and Saddam if America just ended up as a police state? All those American soldiers died in vain.
Americans who defend tyranny are traitors.
Americans who would prefer to live in a police state rather than be responsible are cowards.
Those who defend tyranny are so disturbing that they are willing to betray the US must be trolls or foreigners.
How can Americans sleep at night while the USA collapses?
How can Americans look in the mirror today without feeling disgusted?
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·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,801
@previous (A)
How many children have you suffocate today?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,804
If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking is freedom.
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+Syntax — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,819
@549,785 (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
> WOW. Just, WOW.
> OP think it is ok to smoke and suffocate the children in car with your toxic cloud.
Yep OP hates children and wants to turn cars into gas chambers to deform the children
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,823
Faced with the pain of freedom, man begs for his shackles.
+Anonymous F — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,824
@previous (A)
Betting you're a pedophile and want them protected.
·Anonymous C — 7.9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,827
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,828
Americans hate freedom with a passion and beg for their chains.
If our overlords decreed that everyone must buy a new snowblower this year, Americans would agree that the law makes sense and must be obeyed.
When guns are banned, Americans will scream with delight.
If Americans are forced to get microchip implants, Americans would fight to be first in line.
When Americans get sent to the concentration camps, they will insist that they live in a free country as they get pushed into the ovens.
+Anonymous G — 7.9 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,844
@previous (A)
Why do you want children to get addicted to tobacco so bad
·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,845
@previous (G)
> Why do you want children to get addicted to tobacco so bad
or weed
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,846
Why not just put every American in prison when they're born?
·Anonymous C — 7.9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,847
@previous (A)
That is a personal pov issue called overmagnification. You amplify problems well beyond the limits of the actual problem.
You should work on that.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,848
Americans want to think that they live in a peaceful, free country with a balanced budget, but that belief is not true.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
You know that you live in a police state when everything is illegal and you have no rights.
You have no free speech rights, religious rights, gun rights, there is civil forfeiture, the government wiretaps your phone, records your web history, reads your email, takes away your right to silence, can torture you, and can extrajudicuallly assassinate you.
Your taxes fund illegal immigrants, debt, endless wars, curfews, checkpoints, no fly lists, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, FBAR, FATCA laws, TSA groping, secret FISA courts, and Jade Helm.
The elites are obviously going all the way to destroy the world. Just look at history and Mao, Hitler, and Stalin.
When Americans remain quiet about rising debt, Obamacare, food stamps, regulations, endless US wars, increasing taxes, illegal immigrants, nanny state laws, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, free speech bans, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, NDAA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, chain gangs, boot camps, and Jade Helm what kind of message does that send to the elites?
Do you think the 1% is just going to turn around and restore freedom? Do you think our overlords are just going to stop increasing tyranny on their own?
Unless Americans start speaking out, resisting, protesting, getting out into the streets with pitchforks and torches, tar and feathering the elites, cops, soldiers, politicians, government workers, and media puppets, breaking windows, setting fires, and killing people, Americans will end up in the concentration camps.
There's no hope. The US will be lucky to last another 30 years.
The best we can do now is to warn people to study history and prepare.
The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
The line has been crossed. The Bill of Rights will never be restored. Even if the government said that they have ended NSA wiretapping, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, and secret FISA courts, who would believe them?
The 1% appears intent on causing an economic collapse, a civil war, and WWIII.
Those fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/lionel-shrivers-american-collapse
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/we-re-all-inmates-in-the-american-police-state/article_e81415aa-16c8-11e5-8c24-bbaf57c99d50.html
http://blog.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/2015/03/adios_land_of_the_free_-_new_s.html
http://journalstar.com/news/opinion/editorial/columnists/george-will-when-everything-is-a-crime/article_5b97f1cf-5168-59c2-99ce-8540d5ce6182.html
http://nevadanewsandviews.com/welcome-to-post-constitutional-america/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tsa-begins-testing-fingerprint-check-082000663.html
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/10/as_trial_ends_surreal_scene_le.html
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-california-fighting-caffeine-dui-192312988.html
http://www.chattanoogan.com/2017/4/7/345647/Tennessee-Supreme-Court-Upholds-Police.aspx
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2015/12/judge_orders_man_arrested_for.html?ath=57736eac0e2c3addf91479a82deb9e5d
http://www.telegram.com/news/20160505/woman-arrested-for-staying-silent-during-traffic-stop-sues
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article153373524.html
http://libertarian.forumbuild.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,849
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,851
Americans have gone insane.
The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state.
The default American response to the US collapse is to ignore the decay, excuse government abuse, attack the messengers who warn of the dangers of tyranny, and to blame everyone else except themselves for the decline.
Americans are ignoring the obvious collapse of the US by sticking their heads in the sand and focusing instead on bread and circuses, celebrities, sports, movies, music, alcohol, drugs, and sex.
Americans don't care about government corruption and scandals.
Americans will vehemently attack anyone who dares criticize their beloved government overlords by shouting "fake news!" or calling patriots spammers, trolls, shills, bots, racists, junkies, retards, or nutjobs and demanding that the truth-tellers be censored, banned, get IRS audits, be arrested, or be killed.
Americans quickly blame China, Russia, libtards, Bush, Obama, homosexuals, Communists, Nazis, blacks, atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, feminists, baby boomers, or illegal immigrants for the fall of the USA, but if Americans really want to know who is responsible, they just need to look in the mirror.
Americans say Churchill, FDR, Stalin, LBJ, Putin, Merkel, and Hitler are Jews, no one died during WWII, white people never owned slaves, Communists never killed anyone, the Bill of Rights was repealed by the Organic Act of 1872, and Freemasons control the world, but they never offer any proof. Anyone who does provide opposing evidence will be told their source is unreliable.
Americans say increasing the national debt decreases it.
Americans say food stamps are freedom.
Americans say war is peace.
Americans say tyranny is the American way.
The collapse of the US is shocking and disgusting.
How can Americans sleep at night now?
Every country has the government it deserves.
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·Anonymous F — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,852
Honest source of quality news
https://www.rt.com·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,855
The US is a police state now. Americans should be out in the streets with pitchforks and torches, but instead they would rather shut up, cover their ears, and put their heads in the sand.
Weird.
+Anonymous H — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,856
@previous (A)
Honest source of quality news
https://www.rt.com ·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,859
Americans said that alcohol was dangerous so it must be outlawed.
Americans later found out that alcohol wasn't so bad and should be legal.
Americans then said that marijuana was dangerous so it must be banned.
Americans later found out that pot wasn't so bad and should be legal.
Now Americans scream guns are dangerous so they must be illegal.
If people were wrong before, how can they can be so sure that they are right now?
·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,860
@previous (A)
> If people were wrong before, how can they can be so sure that they are right now?
And how are you so sure what you're saying right now are all right, given "people were wrong before so they cant be so sure they are right now hurr durr"?
+Anonymous I — 7.9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,862
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