Topic: Jake Porter wins Libertarian Iowa governor primary, will face Fred Hubbell and Kim Reynolds
+Anonymous A — 7.9 years ago #51,273
+Anonymous B — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later[T] [B] #549,455
@OP
What's your take on this story?
+Anonymous C — 7.9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,456
@OP
you must have a great life constantly sifting through political trash to find something that upsets you. You must be horrible company in real life.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,461
Libertarians believe the answer to America's political problems is the same commitment to freedom that earned America its greatness: a free-market economy and the abundance and prosperity it brings; a dedication to civil liberties and personal freedom that marks this country above all others; and a foreign policy of non-intervention, peace, and free trade as prescribed by America's founders.
https://www.pornhub.com/gay/video(Edited 1 week later by a moderator.)
·Anonymous B — 7.9 years ago, 47 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,463
@previous (A)
Why do you think that?
+Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,464
Erect nipples.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,465
Libertarians have quietly become America's best organized and most significant third party. Unlike flash-in-the-pan parties organized around cults of personality like Ross Perot's and Ralph Nader's, Libertarians have organized at the grass roots for the long haul. They are fast approaching the point where they may force the major parties to reckon with Libertarian ideas.
+Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 28 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,468
@previous (A)
> reckon with Libertarian ideas.
All they do is fuck up elections so the right wing wins more often. So much for the value of 3rd parties on the left side. All they do is help the right wing side win.
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·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #549,469
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 23 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,507
Libertarianism is the philosophy which says that you can run your life better than the government can, and you have the right to be left alone in order to do it.
+Anonymous F — 7.9 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,508
@previous (A)
I am already running my life better than any government and for the most part my governments local state US leave me alone.
I am free to say what I want to say and keep my wallet filled with more than enough money.
Bernie Sanders is a Libertarian and he wood take money out of my wallet to give to lazy people who do not want a decent education and will not work.
Libertarians are socialists one step removed from Commies.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,509
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,518
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,519
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·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,520
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,521
·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,522
@previous (A)
I have rocks in my garden that stand a better chance of achieving those goals.
» Marriage: “Libertarians want the government out of marriage. I don’t think anyone has ever said, ‘Oh my gosh, we love each other, we have such a great time together; the only thing missing is the government.’ ”
So it will please you if a dad can divorce his wife and marry his 8 year old daughter
» Welfare: “We need to end the welfare system. ... When you look at a social program, can’t we do better than what the government does?”
So it is ok with you if families starve and that includes children
» Taxes: “The government taxing you to stay in business is much like the Mafia saying, ‘You can’t have business on this street unless you pay protection money.’ ”
You think it is possible to eliminate the Government and tax's pay for police and fire but you do not see the need for them
“Libertarians don’t believe in force,” said Kerry McKennon, county coordinator for Texas’ Libertarian Party. “I don’t believe the government, a group or individuals have the right to do anything that infringes or takes away your liberty and freedom.”
Well damn those who commit crimes like theft and murder will be free from the force of the law. One should not take the freedom away from child molesters according to you.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,523
The triumph of persuasion over force is the sign of a civilized society.
+Anonymous G — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,524
@previous (A)
You don't even have the guts to reply.
lolol
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,525
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,526
http://www.vvdailypress.com/news/20171101/communism-turns-100-and-its-nothing-to-celebrate
https://www.newsweek.com/following-supreme-court-decision-mississippi-may-stop-issuing-any-marriage-347740
The government is not your daddy. The government is not your mommy.
A wise and frugal government which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.
The police can't stop an intruder, mugger, or stalker from hurting you. They can pursue him only after he has hurt or killed you. Protecting yourself from harm is your responsibility, and you are far less likely to be hurt in a neighborhood of gun-owners than in one of disarmed citizens – even if you don't own a gun yourself.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,527
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,528
The US is a bankrupt warmongering police state. More debt, wars, and tyranny won't save the US. Debt, wars, and tyranny don't benefit you. Debt, wars, and tyranny benefit the elites.
Debt enriches the elites.
Wars help the ruling class kill off the 99% and makes money for the defense companies.
The police state helps the 1% boost the private prison industry.
One problem with the police state is that every law has unintended consequences.
Banning dogs, baggy pants, and smoking helps fill private prisons and increases government spending and taxes.
How can people resist tyranny if protesting is illegal?
How can people defend themselves without guns?
Why was soda safe 20 years ago, but now is suddenly dangerous?
A society based on the freedom to choose is better than a society based on the principles of socialism, communism, and coercion.
Government laws lead to more crime. If only murder and theft were illegal, obeying the law would be easy, but no one respects the law when everything is illegal.
Most of the problems of today would be solved by embracing what worked in the past.
People were born in the past without birth certificates.
People could travel without passports.
People can learn how to drive without driver licenses.
People could travel without being groped by the TSA.
The government does not need to wiretap people.
Businesses that do not have business licenses will go bankrupt if they provide bad service.
People will not starve if they do not have food stamps.
People can find cheap doctors in the world without Obamacare.
People will not have a vested interest in driving dangerously if there are no liability insurance laws.
People could carry guns, no one had Social Security numbers, and there were no sales, income, or property taxes in the past.
Drugs, alcohol, smoking, gambling, prostitution, sodas, protesting, and mosques were legal before, why can't they be legal now?
The US did not torture in the past, why does the US need to torture now?
The USA had open borders before, why must the US have closed borders now?
If self-serve gas stations can be legal in one place, why can't they be legal everywhere?
If seeing eye dogs are legal in restaurants, why can't all dogs be legal in restaurants?
Would crime rise if everything was legal?
Why do you need the government anyway? Can’t you talk to people who bother you? Could you sue someone? Could you just move away? Can't you protect yourself?
Think.
A free country that went to war with a evil dictatorship should not become a police state. Thieves cannot take the moral high ground and criticize robbers.
The USA is an immoral bankrupt warmongering police state now.
Americans have learned nothing from history.
Americans have no rights anymore and the US is no longer a democracy.
Americans think every problem should be solved by decree and force now, but every solution causes another problem.
Americans think the government is made up of holy men. Americans think anyone becomes a saint when they wear a costume, badge, and a gun.
The solution for problems should be what worked in the past.
Americans say that rent control should be used to reduce high rents instead of reducing regulations.
When regulations lead to a bad economy, Americans think that the homeless should be put in jail and businesses should be given bailouts.
Instead of allowing people to feed the homeless, Americans think feeding the homeless should be outlawed.
Instead of getting rid of welfare that encourages girls to marry the state instead of a man and leads to broken families, Americans think food stamps should be expanded.
Instead of getting rid of minimum wages that cripple the ability of the US to compete on the world market, Americans think the US should increase the minimum wage and start a trade war by enacting tariffs.
When food stamps lead to increased debt, Americans think that taxes should be raised.
Americans think the only way to attend college is to have student loans, but student loans raise the cost of tuition.
Instead of ending wars that lead to terrorism, tyranny, debt, and refugees, Americans think that the wars should be increased.
Instead of arresting sex traffickers, Americans would rather shut down free speech and prostitution.
Americans would rather ban video games instead of arresting murderers.
Instead of allowing the free market to decide what companies are good, Americans would rather shut down monopolies.
Instead of educating people, Americans would rather jail people for using their own property in the wrong way.
Central planning has failed everywhere. China used to encourage people to have kids, but after China became overpopulated, China had an one-child policy.
The USA is supposed to be a free country. The reason the Americans fought the British was because Americans wanted to be free.
When our overlords make a decree, they always sell it as a minor temporary law that only affects Muslims, junkies, sex offenders, homosexuals, illegal immigrants, or blacks. The 1% doesn’t mention that the law will become permanent and more draconian.
No one cares if owning cows are illegal, yoga pants are illegal, teen driving is illegal, or smoking is illegal. The problem is what happens when your job is banned, the government steals your house, tortures your family, or sends you to the concentration camps.
Are you just going to take it?
If tyranny is so wonderful then why do people try to escape North Korea?
Would you rather be locked in a padded room wearing a strait-jacket and have safety or be homeless on a mountain and have freedom?
The elites are trying today to make Americans dependent children by outlawing everything and giving them food stamps. Once Americans are weakened and the US Ponzi economy implodes, the ruling class will then send the 99% off to the gulags to be starved and killed.
Governments are not kind. Governments have killed millions of people in Nazi concentration camps, Soviet gulags, the Chinese Great Leap Forward, and the Cambodian killing fields.
Liberty is not something that only benefits other people, but not you. Freedom benefits everyone.
Tyranny is not something that only punishes other people, but not you. Tyranny punishes everyone.
Freedom is good.
Tyranny is bad.
This is no joke.
History repeats and the signs are everywhere.
Anyone who supports the government is just a tool of the elites.
Wake up.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/photos-of-russia-1990s-after-the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union-2017-3·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,529
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+On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,530
@549,528 (A)
Spamming is bad and you should feel bad. Wake the motherfucking up
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,531
In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man and brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.
·Anonymous F — 7.9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,532
@549,530 (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
He is one of those give me liberty or give me death.
Death becomes him.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,533
Americans hate freedom with a passion.
·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,534
@549,532 (F)
> He is one of those give me assperger or give me autism.
> Autism becomes him.
ftfy
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,535
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·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,536
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,537
It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
+Anonymous I — 7.9 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,538
@previous (A)
With retards like you, you will end up with butt kiss.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,539
You know the US is doomed when Americans would rather attack those who defend freedom instead of criticizing the government that is enslaving them.
·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,540
@previous (A)
As I sees it you're the one doomed. Spend more time making money and getting toys adults enjoy and less time whining about the USA.
It ain't perfect yet it sure works for me as IS! Sure will be better without Trump however Trump has filled my wallet so I have to accept the good with the evil.
See I have a terrific place to live in and lots of friends and the bank account that allows lots of fun.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,541
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·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,542
@549,539 (A)
i knew ppl in china who have monie and powar and want to infiltrate usa
you want to fight the govt?
gimme a call and i'll hook you up with him
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,543
@previous (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
They're only interested in chinky monkey agenda, tho.
·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,544
@549,542 (On !Uvm54ORbmo)·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 53 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,547
Life may be all fun and games now in the USA, but as offshoring increases, illegal immigration rises, hard-working Americans die off or dropout due to higher taxes and more regulations, the national debt climbs, there is more terrorism as the result of illegal American wars, the police become more brutal enforcing draconian decrees, the US Ponzi economy and stock markets collapse, cash is banned, Americans are implanted with microchips, and real crises and false flags are used to force Americans to go to the gulags and finally to the gas chambers and ovens, will Americans wish that they had spoken out earlier against the dangers of wars, debt, and tyranny?
·Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,548
@previous (A)
> Americans are implanted with microchips
Are there no limits to your negativity? I am a guy who lives with a glass always at least half full never empty. You sound truly miserable.
> illegal immigration
Who do you think picks your fruits and veggies? Washes the dishes in restaurants and picks up your garbage.
Is there anything about your life that you like? I mean you can choose to be miserable or but hey your choice
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,549
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2017/08/09/you-get-chipped-eventually/547336001/
Do illegal immigrants lower wages? Do illegal immigrants encourage respect for the law? Has there ever been a successful diversified country? Do illegal immigrants get welfare?
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,555
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #549,557
If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,558
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·Syntax — 7.9 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,566
@549,557 (A)
> If you love wealth more than liberty,
I have both currently - Mine comes with protection of Police and yours has no police because you say NO Tax people to pay for
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 29 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,567
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,570
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,587
If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that, too.
+Anonymous J — 7.9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,590
@previous (A)
I have more than enough freedom and almost all the creature comforts I need. Life is great in the USA.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 29 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,593
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,608
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 8 hours later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,631
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 30 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,634
Legalize Freedom: Vote Libertarian.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,635
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,636
A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act consistently with this principle are libertarians, whether they realize it or not. Those who fail to act consistently with it are not libertarians, regardless of what they may claim.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,637
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·Syntax — 7.9 years ago, 32 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,639
@549,636 (A)
> A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human being
I just do not believe this is possible. A Fantasy perhaps. So you get car jacked and car is full of kids and your wife and mother and sister. You are forced out and car jacker says he is going to traffic your family for cash and you will just step out without any attempt to stop him
Sorry dude I no buy this kinda of argument and if you try and say there are exceptions because You did not initiate it LoL
+Anonymous K — 7.9 years ago, 7 hours later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,659
Everyone has the right to self-defense.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 27 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,662
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+Anonymous L — 7.9 years ago, 19 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,664
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·Anonymous L — 7.9 years ago, 31 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,665
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·Anonymous L — 7.9 years ago, 32 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,666
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 8 hours later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,677
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,680
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 47 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,683
There is nothing worse than aggressive stupidity.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 26 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,686
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,691
Libertarianism is a philosophy. The basic premise of libertarianism is that each individual should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others. In the libertarian view, societies and governments infringe on individual liberties whenever they tax wealth, create penalties for victimless crimes, or otherwise attempt to control or regulate individual conduct which harms or benefits no one except the individual who engages in it.
·Anonymous L — 7.9 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,692
@previous (A)
> Libertarianism is a philosophy. The basic premise of libertarianism is that each individual should be free to do as he or she pleases so long as he or she does not harm others. In the libertarian view, societies and governments infringe on individual liberties whenever they tax wealth, create penalties for victimless crimes, or otherwise attempt to control or regulate individual conduct which harms or benefits no one except the individual who engages in it.
Word.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,693
Government is not the solution, but rather the cause of our problems.
·Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,694
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[T] [B] #549,701
The difference between libertarianism and socialism is that libertarians will tolerate the existence of a socialist community, but socialists can’t tolerate a libertarian community.
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