Topic: ATTN: Father Merrin

+Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 — 7.9 years ago #51,198

¹⁷¹ People of the Book, do not go to excess in your religion, and do not say anything about God except the truth: the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was nothing more than a messenger of God, His word, directed to Mary, a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers and do not speak of a ‘Trinity’—stop [this], that is better for you—God is only one God, He is far above having a son, everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him and He is the best one to trust.

Haleem, M. A. S. Abdel. The Qur'an (Oxford World's Classics) (p. 66). OUP Oxford. Kindle Edition.

+Syntax — 7.9 years ago, 19 minutes later[T] [B] #548,465

This of course is off topic
What is your current download speed?

+Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 7.9 years ago, 25 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #548,467

@OP
The Qur'an is senseless gibberish.

+Anonymous D — 7.9 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,469

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·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,472

@548,467 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

The Qur'an is a continuation of the scriptures previously bestowed upon humanity. T.hanks.

·Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 7.9 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,475

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
And is senseless gibberish.

+Anonymous E — 7.9 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,476

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
As with your so called fairy book, the bible.

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,478

@548,475 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

If God is beyond all human comprehension, space, and time then what need does He have of a son?

·Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,479

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> If God is beyond all human comprehension, space, and time then what need does He have of a son?

Let me offer you some advice on critical thinking: make sure your premise is sound before reaching the conclusion. To wit, why have you assumed God is "beyond all human comprehension"? On what is this proposition based?

And secondly, even if we allow your (shaky and quite honestly baseless) premise, would it not then make sense for God to engender a human offspring in order to make Himself comprehensible to us?

Think before you write, my boy. Think.

·Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,480

@548,476 (E)
> so called fairy book

Therefore implying you don't think it's a "fairy book". Lol.

Think before you post, my lad. Think.

+Anonymous F — 7.9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,483

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,484

@548,479 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

Is God not omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent?

(This is something that Christianity has often times said too.)

Why would he not be beyond all human comprehension?

Are you are lowering His position to a more human level, my boy?

·Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #548,485

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> Is God not omnipresent

Yes

> omniscient

Yes

> and omnipotent?

Yes

> Why would he not be beyond all human comprehension?

By virtue of the fact that He self-evidently isn't.

You're really struggling with this aren't you, my boy? Thinking is not something you do very well, is it?

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 51 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,492

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

What makes you think you could comprehend something that is omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, and possibly even omnisexual? You are merely a man and God is God. God is greater than you.

I'm detecting traces of human arrogance in you, my boy.

+Anonymous G — 7.9 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,493

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
What do you mean by "comprehend"? Because I also don't understand your point, at least as you're framing it. Your sentence about God being greater than man is confusing. Why do you feel that means God can't be comprehended? Newton was a far greater scientist than me, I'm still perfectly able to comprehend him.

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,495

@previous (G)
That is because Newton is a scientist within the universe. God would be something that is beyond our universe. Think of God like a programmer who designed the entire universe and all of its functions.

function evolution() {
    natural_selection = input();
    // insert code here
}

Sometimes whenever I think theologically the more I think we will never be able to comprehend God or his methods, but we can get close through the understanding of how his creation works. Thus the purpose of science.

+Dead !Pool..v42s — 7.9 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,496

@548,493 (G)
Nice uid switch

·Anonymous G — 7.9 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,498

@548,495 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> God would be something that is beyond our universe.

Why do you think this?

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 15 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,499

@previous (G)

It seems that is how He was portrayed in any given scripture, especially the Qur'an from what I read so far, plus he sort of has to be if he is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient at the same time. Would a programmer be everywhere in the programs they create? Sure, even if it's just by influence. I have a feeling that once advanced artificial intelligence takes over, we as humans, would begin to question the nature of our creator (again). Of course, nobody, including myself could fully know anything about God, but why would He program everything if not for us to learn? Of course, he could have programmed us to be subservient too. We wouldn't know unless we meet Him face-to-face.

(Edited 49 seconds later.)

·Anonymous G — 7.9 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,500

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> It seems that is how He was portrayed in any given scripture, especially the Qur'an from what I read so far

I haven't read the Koran but I've never got the impression from the Bible that God is "beyond our universe".

·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 7.9 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #548,501

@previous (G)

I didn't either, that is why I sometimes think I never really believed in it all that much. I mean, why would God need a son? I think comedian Jimmy Carr ruined that one for me when he said, "If we're all God's children, what's so special about Jesus?" The argument could be made that he died for the sins of mankind, and fair enough, but to denote that he was the "Son of God" when we're all sons and daughters of God doesn't seem to be fitting. The Qur'an, from what I read, speaks of Jesus as merely a messager much in the same way as Muhammad. Plus I have always heard people say that God is great, but if He were truly great then that would put Him above us. So why wouldn't he be beyond our comprehension and beyond our known universe, His creation? Wouldn't that mean that God is greater than His Creation? I think it would.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

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