Topic: Rules Related to Drinking in Islam
+Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 — 8 years ago #51,123
> The Quran tells that those who drink or make intoxication inducing drinks, as well as those who serve, live on its income, or transport it, are cursed by Allah. In Islam, all solid or liquid drinks which cause any form of intoxication and a state of drunkenness is prohibited, which includes wine, vodka, and even beer according to the Quran. Prophet Muhammad had declared that one who engages in the sinful act of drinking is partaking in a haram act or an action prohibited by Allah and are not worthy of associated in holy matrimony with any of Muslim’s daughters. Moreover, a drunk should never be trusted with anything based on his word alone. Muslims are prohibited from eating at a table where intoxicating drinks are being served and consumed. Though one might go to a restaurant where alcohol is served, he should categorically avoid ordering some for himself or to sit near any other table where the customers are consuming such drinks as a precaution. The Muslims should refrain from consuming any food that has been cooked in pure alcohol or derived from wood and is consequently called ‘tahir’.
> Richardson, Ella. Islam for Beginners: Basics of Islam and Muslim Customs (+ Gift Inside) (Kindle Locations 568-572). Kindle Edition.
I suppose this means that Bert wouldn't survive living a homeless life in a fundamentalist Islamic country.
> Moreover, a drunk should never be trusted with anything based on his word alone.
+Anonymous B — 8 years ago, 1 hour later[T] [B] #547,445
plenty of muslims drink
+Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,473
The Quran has some exceedingly silly rules and regulations.
+Anonymous D — 8 years ago, 45 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,477
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> The Quran has some exceedingly silly rules and regulations.
> U haffa cum to gawd's howz erry sunday, or you goin ta Hades! ·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,485
@547,473 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
At least their rules are more structured and thought out compared to the stuff you're preaching.
·Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U — 8 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,486
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
You have proof of that?
+Anonymous E — 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,487
@547,485 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
If you do something explosive in the name of Allah, you can end up in heaven with 72 virgins. Christianity has nothing in their book that equals that deal.
·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 8 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,488
@previous (E)
Please cite the document which states this? I want to highlight it in my study books and no this isn't me being facetious.
·Anonymous E — 8 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,489
·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 8 years ago, 43 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,492
@previous (E)
I mean, in the actual Qur'an and Hadiths, etc.
+Anonymous F — 8 years ago, 22 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,493
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Bro you lazy. In three minutes with one search term I found multiple references.
One requires translation in part.
he is married to seventy two wives among the Hur the `Iyn ["wide-eyed ones", اثْنَتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ زَوْجَةً مِنَ الْحُورِ الْعِينِ] of Paradise, and he may intercede for seventy of his close relatives.
+Anonymous G — 8 years ago, 9 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,496
Found this.
The 72 Virgins notion has its origins in the Qur'an. Although the holy book does not specify the number as 72, it does say that those who fight in the way of Allah and are killed will be given a great reward. It goes on to stipulate that Muslims will be awarded with women in Islamic heaven. It even describes their physical attributes—large eyes (Q 56:22) and big, firm, round "swelling breasts" that are not inclined to sagging (Q 78:33). The Qur'an refers to these virgins as houri, companions of equal age, but the highly-flavored emphasis of their bodily characteristics, including their virginity, gave rise to many hadiths and other Islamic writings.
Hadith 2687 is where the number 72 is mentioned. "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."
Qur'anic commentator Al-Suyuti (died 1505) and Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and Al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) graphically elaborated sensual pleasures attributed to Muslims in paradise". Al-Suyuti wrote, "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas."
On the whole, the Qur'an and the hadiths are filled with sexual fantasies that Muslim men are awarded when they reach Islamic heaven. Anas bin Malik, an Islamic scholar, claimed that "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number… The Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." Muhammad (hadith 24) apparently claimed that devout Muslims would be given the sexual strength of 100 persons upon their arrival in Heaven. (This is apparently more than what was attributed to the prophet himself).
The sexual obsession by Muslim men as conveyed by Islamic writings, takes its cue from the founder of the religion. The description depicts him as a sexual predator. Aisha, Muhammad's wife since she was a nine-year-old girl, described her sexual experiences with the prophet. When she was six years old, he could not have intercourse with her due to her young age. As a consolation prize, he placed his penis between her thighs and massaged it softly. Aisha explained that unlike other believers, the prophet had control over his penis."
Being consistent with its sexual obsession and predatory practices, the Qur'an permits pedophilia (sura 65:4). It also discusses rape in detail. It lets you know that men can rape female slaves and captives (Q 23:6), even in front of their husbands (Q 4:24). Other writings advise that when having sex with captives, it's better if you don't pull out at the end (Sahih Bukhari 3:46:718).
It's no wonder that 72 Virgins in Paradise are a fundamental piece of Islamic culture. Sex, sex abuse, pedophilia, and enslavement of women take central stage within that religion. Encouraging martyrdom by pointing to sexual rewards in heaven is a natural corollary of that tradition. Although the Qur'an may not be as specific, it nevertheless, offers many clues, which subsequent inscriptions reinforced, interpreted, and broadened.
Apparently no bras are necessary in Heaven.
·Anonymous D — 8 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,497
@547,492 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Go back to Minichan, my boy.
+Anonymous H — 8 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,518
@547,496 (G)
> "Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [i.e. Muslim] will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas."
Where do I sign up?
+Anonymous I — 8 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,519
poo
·Anonymous I — 8 years ago, 12 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,520
butt
·Anonymous I — 8 years ago, 10 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,521
ass
·Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) — 8 years ago, 7 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,549
@547,493 (F)
It's not nice to steal information. At least, cite where you got it from.
@547,496 (G)
Better, my boy.
·Anonymous D — 8 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #547,550
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Seriously, go back to minichan. Nobody here missed you, my boy.
+Syntax — 8 years ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #547,585
@547,549 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
So of course I contributed to this topic in a Stealth way - So Cathy are you planning on ending up with 72 Virgins?
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