Topic: New illness found in people who smoke marijuana in states that have it legalized
+Syntax — 9.5 years ago #46,264
NEW YORK -- For more than two years, Lance Crowder was having severe abdominal pain and vomiting, and no local doctor could figure out why. Finally, an emergency room physician in Indianapolis had an idea.
“The first question he asked was if I was taking hot showers to find relief. When he asked me that question, I basically fell into tears because I knew he had an answer,” Crowder said.
The answer was cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, or CHS. It’s caused by heavy, long-term use of various forms of marijuana. For unclear reasons, the nausea and vomiting are relieved by hot showers or baths.
The answer was cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, or CHS. It’s caused by heavy, long-term use of various forms of marijuana. For unclear reasons, the nausea and vomiting are relieved by hot showers or baths.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mysterious-illness-tied-to-marijuana-use-on-the-rise-in-states-with-legal-weed/
+Anonymous B — 9.5 years ago, 33 minutes later[T] [B] #503,420
> new illness
Relatively. We've known about since at least 2004 when it was documented down under, m8.
Relatively. We've known about since at least 2004 when it was documented down under, m8.
+Syntax — 9.5 years ago, 6 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #503,452
OP+Anonymous D — 9.5 years ago, 13 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[T] [B] #503,497
Reefer madness
+Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI — 9.5 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,555
In all honesty, I'm guessing that if there is an illness that has been caused by marijuana then it's most likely not the marijuana itself, but it's most likely the fetilizer that has been used by the marijuana farmers. I don't know much about the precautions that are used to prevent contamination of fertilizer, but if proper precautions weren't taken by inexperienced farmers who decided to grow marijuana because it's a new and profitable venture, then I think it explains the symptoms better than being caused by marijuana alone.
However, we need to keep in mind that correlation doesn't equal causation. We live in a time where marijuana use is common and even becoming socially acceptable. It may just be a coincidence that people in a state where recreational use of marijuana is legal smoke marijuana regularly and are experiencing the same symptom.
However, we need to keep in mind that correlation doesn't equal causation. We live in a time where marijuana use is common and even becoming socially acceptable. It may just be a coincidence that people in a state where recreational use of marijuana is legal smoke marijuana regularly and are experiencing the same symptom.
·Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI — 9.5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,556
@previous (Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI)
> In all honesty, I'm guessing that if there is an illness that has been caused by marijuana then it's most likely not the marijuana itself, but it's most likely the fetilizer that has been used by the marijuana farmers. I don't know much about the precautions that are used to prevent contamination of fertilizer, but if proper precautions weren't taken by inexperienced farmers who decided to grow marijuana because it's a new and profitable venture, then I think it explains the symptoms better than being caused by marijuana alone.
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> However, we need to keep in mind that correlation doesn't equal causation. We live in a time where marijuana use is common and even becoming socially acceptable. It may just be a coincidence that people in a state where recreational use of marijuana is legal smoke marijuana regularly and are experiencing the same symptom.
I mean to include pesticide poisoning along side with fertilizer poisoning. Thirst, abdominal pain, dehydration, and nausea are symptoms of pesticide poisoning and I think I confused pesticide with fertilizer in my previous post.
> In all honesty, I'm guessing that if there is an illness that has been caused by marijuana then it's most likely not the marijuana itself, but it's most likely the fetilizer that has been used by the marijuana farmers. I don't know much about the precautions that are used to prevent contamination of fertilizer, but if proper precautions weren't taken by inexperienced farmers who decided to grow marijuana because it's a new and profitable venture, then I think it explains the symptoms better than being caused by marijuana alone.
>
> However, we need to keep in mind that correlation doesn't equal causation. We live in a time where marijuana use is common and even becoming socially acceptable. It may just be a coincidence that people in a state where recreational use of marijuana is legal smoke marijuana regularly and are experiencing the same symptom.
I mean to include pesticide poisoning along side with fertilizer poisoning. Thirst, abdominal pain, dehydration, and nausea are symptoms of pesticide poisoning and I think I confused pesticide with fertilizer in my previous post.
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+Anonymous F — 9.5 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,557
·Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI — 9.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,558
·Anonymous B — 9.5 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,560
@503,555 (Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI)Maybe, but it seems like cannabis is the most likely culprit.
It's rare, takes years to develop with chronic use, and it's not nearly as destructive as diseases associated with long term alcohol abuse or many rx drugs. The benefits are still grater than the risks for the majority as far as being used therapeutically and the people who develop this condition will just need to seek out a different treatment for their condition. Nbd.
·Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI — 9.5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,561
@previous (B)
> Maybe, but it seems like cannabis is the most likely culprit.
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> It's rare, takes years to develop with chronic use, and it's not nearly as destructive as diseases associated with long term alcohol abuse or many rx drugs. The benefits are still grater than the risks for the majority as far as being used therapeutically and the people who develop this condition will just need to seek out a different treatment for their condition. Nbd.
There's bound to be negative effects by overusing any substance, even Tylenol, cannibus is no exception, so there may very well be some sort of syndrome which is caused by cannibus among certain people.
Do you know how often people who had these symptoms used? I don't know the medical definition for long term use, but considering that drinking a beer daily is considered to be alcoholism, if they smoked multiple times daily, for months or even even years, then I wouldn't be surprised if they had some negative effect.
> Maybe, but it seems like cannabis is the most likely culprit.
>
> It's rare, takes years to develop with chronic use, and it's not nearly as destructive as diseases associated with long term alcohol abuse or many rx drugs. The benefits are still grater than the risks for the majority as far as being used therapeutically and the people who develop this condition will just need to seek out a different treatment for their condition. Nbd.
There's bound to be negative effects by overusing any substance, even Tylenol, cannibus is no exception, so there may very well be some sort of syndrome which is caused by cannibus among certain people.
Do you know how often people who had these symptoms used? I don't know the medical definition for long term use, but considering that drinking a beer daily is considered to be alcoholism, if they smoked multiple times daily, for months or even even years, then I wouldn't be surprised if they had some negative effect.
·Anonymous B — 9.5 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,564
@previous (Wildchild !NvEXY0NyQI)
Sure, too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
Nothing I've read on it suggested the amount used, just "regular/chronic use", but the margin for time it'd take to manifest is about 3-16 years, the amount of time it takes to resolve (by stopping use) is around 24-48hrs.
The only people it didn't resolve in refused to stop smoking. So... not super cereal IMO even if cannabis is the cause. Unfortunate for a small minority of people that won't be able to continue to reap the benefits of cannabis if it is tho.
Sure, too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
Nothing I've read on it suggested the amount used, just "regular/chronic use", but the margin for time it'd take to manifest is about 3-16 years, the amount of time it takes to resolve (by stopping use) is around 24-48hrs.
The only people it didn't resolve in refused to stop smoking. So... not super cereal IMO even if cannabis is the cause. Unfortunate for a small minority of people that won't be able to continue to reap the benefits of cannabis if it is tho.
+Namefag !CQywTu1T9w — 9.5 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,596
I have heavily used marijuana over long periods of time and the ONLY WAY I can deal with the nausea and sleeplessness associated with a genetic disease I have is cannabis, this is all hogwash.
·big pharma shill — 9.5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,602
@previous (Namefag !CQywTu1T9w)
Hogwash... because one person doesn't experience a rare complication of cannabis use? Most people don't have your disease, but that doesn't make the disease hogwash.
Point being that even though you or I may not experience it doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge that cannabis may have an adverse effect for some. Cannabis is still grate anyway.
Hogwash... because one person doesn't experience a rare complication of cannabis use? Most people don't have your disease, but that doesn't make the disease hogwash.
Point being that even though you or I may not experience it doesn't mean we shouldn't acknowledge that cannabis may have an adverse effect for some. Cannabis is still grate anyway.
·Namefag !CQywTu1T9w — 9.5 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,672
@previous (big pharma shill)
Of course there is a possibility for side effects like any compound consumed by humans, but there isn't any research or objective evidence to prove it.
This article is 100% conjecture with zero scientific backing. There is absolutely nothing solid linking marijuana to these vomiting episodes, when in fact the anti-nausea properties of cannabis have been known for thousands of years.
On top of the symptoms making zero sense, where were these symptoms before 2009? Billions of people consume cannabis daily but this problem has only just now surfaced, and only in America?
Sounds like grade A biased bullshit to me. You should be banned for posting such inconclusive drivel.
Of course there is a possibility for side effects like any compound consumed by humans, but there isn't any research or objective evidence to prove it.
This article is 100% conjecture with zero scientific backing. There is absolutely nothing solid linking marijuana to these vomiting episodes, when in fact the anti-nausea properties of cannabis have been known for thousands of years.
On top of the symptoms making zero sense, where were these symptoms before 2009? Billions of people consume cannabis daily but this problem has only just now surfaced, and only in America?
Sounds like grade A biased bullshit to me. You should be banned for posting such inconclusive drivel.
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·big pharma shill — 9.5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #503,686
@previous (Namefag !CQywTu1T9w)
> but muh marijuanas!
Did you actually look for any research or evidence?
Of course it sounds paradoxical, but people who do suffer from this issue will often try to relieve the symptoms with cannabis, but instead prolong it unintentionally. It might be why most research pertaining to this generally says something like paradox or paradoxical hyperemetic effects, e.g. something along the lines of "The antiemetic properties of marijuana are well known, but there is increasing evidence of its paradoxical hyperemetic effects on the gastrointestinal tract and central nervous system, known as ‘cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome’ (CHS)."
Maybe start here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/
or
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cannabinoid+Hyperemesis+Syndrome
> but muh marijuanas!
Did you actually look for any research or evidence?
Of course it sounds paradoxical, but people who do suffer from this issue will often try to relieve the symptoms with cannabis, but instead prolong it unintentionally. It might be why most research pertaining to this generally says something like paradox or paradoxical hyperemetic effects, e.g. something along the lines of "The antiemetic properties of marijuana are well known, but there is increasing evidence of its paradoxical hyperemetic effects on the gastrointestinal tract and central nervous system, known as ‘cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome’ (CHS)."
Maybe start here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/
or
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cannabinoid+Hyperemesis+Syndrome
+Namefag !CQywTu1T9w — 9.5 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #503,787
@previous (big pharma shill)
That's actually a nice study, there's not nearly enough research into the neurological effects of cannabis in the human body.
So it seems that for the vast majority of cases Marijuana cures nausea, except when these two receptors get overloaded with cbd, and then it makes you vomit.
This is the closest thing to a hazard for weed yet! Still not deadly though so I'm not gonna slow down at all. This shit replaces multiple expensive drugs I would have to take to cope with the same level of pain and sleeplessness.
That's actually a nice study, there's not nearly enough research into the neurological effects of cannabis in the human body.
So it seems that for the vast majority of cases Marijuana cures nausea, except when these two receptors get overloaded with cbd, and then it makes you vomit.
This is the closest thing to a hazard for weed yet! Still not deadly though so I'm not gonna slow down at all. This shit replaces multiple expensive drugs I would have to take to cope with the same level of pain and sleeplessness.
·Anonymous B — 9.5 years ago, 10 hours later, 3 days after the original post[T] [B] #503,820
@previous (Namefag !CQywTu1T9w)Right, nigga. It's not that serial and the risk here is still null even if it is caused by cannabis. Special interest lobbies that are probably responsible for getting this to circle news outlets again will undoubtedly try to blow this out of proportion to make it sound sooper spooky all the same. Maybe it was brought up again after the news of the CBD oil ban in an attempt to justify it to the public... it'd be a ludicrous excuse for banning something even more harmless (if that's possible) than plain ol' cannabis tho.
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