Topic: I've had a cough for a week now

+Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 10.1 years ago #44,898

I got a cold last week but my cough won't go away. I googled and now I think I might have aids. I don't want to go to Egyptian doctors because the last time I did he said I needed to drink more coffee

I don't know what 2 do now

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+Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 3 hours later[T] [B] #491,392

What does it sound like? Does your chest feel crackly? Does it feel like the air is wheezy, I.E. when you breathe out do you hear sounds coming from your lungs that sounds wheezy?

Is it a dry cough? Are you coughing up mucous? What color is it if you are? Do you have a runny nose? Do you have a fever? If so how high?

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,394

@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
I had a cold and now I do not but the cough never went away. There's no wheezing or whatever its just like clear gross mucus but it never goes away please help me doctor nexi

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 32 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,398

@previous (Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
I am not a doctor but I know a bit about ENT disorders.
Do you smoke? Smoking can cause clear mucous. If you have a stuffy nose it is probably a sinus infection. It can also be a sinus infection caused by allergies since you are coughing. Try taking some benadryl if you can find some. This can be especially true since you are in a new country with new allergens. I don't know what kind of cough medicines egypt has available but try to find something with either codeine, promethazine or dextromethorphan. Guaifenesin may also work, but I would try to find something with the others first. All of those will help suppress the cough. Look for cough medicine in the store or the pharmacy and read the labels. (hopefully they are in a language you can read).

I hope this helps ducky.

+Anonymous C — 10.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,403

@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
> I hope this helps

It'll help if you take your whiney ass back to MC.

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 42 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,405

@491,398 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
I was just hoping I wouldn't have to take pills because I am a hippie

+Anti !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,409

@previous (Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
Hippie or not, just pick up some OTC codeine for the cough (hey, it comes from a plant)... or if you're really going to be a hippie about it, find a source of bromelain from 100% pineapple juice or pineapple stem for the cough. Also try doing a saline 'nasal spray' or saline solution to flush all the gunk out if you don't want to try antihistamines or steroids first.

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,436

@previous (Anti !M6R0eWkIpk)
Oshit pineapple is magical.

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 41 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,438

@previous (Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)

It's a grate fruit and the antitussive agent in pineapple is actually on par or better than a lot of the opiates used as cough suppressants. I prefer the opiates, but eh, if you don't want to pop pills, pineapple (not the cooked or canned stuff though, it really does need to be the juice or stem) and saltwater are cheap and effective ways to deal with the symptoms you described. Besides it'll give your body a chance to resolve the issue on it's on, but if it's an infection, you might still end up needing to go to the Doktor eventually.

Anything with anti-inflammatory properties (turmeric, tart cherry juice, CBD from the marijuanas, etc) won't hurt as an alternative to corticosteroids/roids or NSAIDs. Although if you go the marijuanas route... try to avoid smoking it if at all possible, at least until the cough and sinus issues clear up.

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,439

@491,405 (Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)
You are going to have to take pills Ducky.

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 22 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,444

@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
Not necessarily. You suggested an antitussive, antihistamine, and an expectorant, which is fine.

Bromelain, although available as a pill, is easily found without pills and is a grate antitussive agent. Whether it's some sort of allergen or irritant or infection the saline rinses will still help. Allopathic medicine is grate for covering up symptoms, but there are effective non-'pill' alternatives that'll do the same for the ailments described. Western Medicine is aware of the properties of bromelain and saline and there is actual evidence that these treatments work. This isn't voodoo or homeopathic hokum. If it doesn't clear up after a bit, then she might have to pop pills, but not the ones you're thinking of, bud.

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 9 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,446

@previous (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
Do you have sources to back that up that are reputable? I know some of those "green" websites talk about this but I have only heard of bromelain being used as an alternative medicine for its anti inflammatory properties and it making your semen taste like pineapple.

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,449

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
No pot in Egypt weirdo

@491,438 (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
So eating good old pineapple should help. I know it helped me clear up a UTI with no pills, which felt awesome. The doctor said "here's a prescription" and i bought pineapple instead.
ill rinse with salt water. I always forget about that one ;p

@491,439 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
Well, i have no other symptoms at all , i don't think i am fighting anything and so maybe i don't need to take drastic measures

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 26 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,451

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,452

@491,449 (Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc)

It's worth a shot! Bromelain IME helps. There are holistic or naturopathic sources that exaggerate it's usefulness perhaps, but I would definitely give it a go. The saline/saltwater rinses are important too though, because it could just be some allergen/irritant you've encountered while traveling, the saline rinses help to flush it out and mitigate the irritation and inflammation those irritants/allergens could be causing in your nose as I type this.

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,453

@491,451 (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
Did you even read the abstracts or the conclusions for like half of those? Most of it is research speak for "Positive results, needs further research." Most of those articles speak of bromelain is an anti-inflammatory like I stated in my other post. Much of it's other effects need further research. There is a reason Bromelain is still a "Dietary Supplement".

I am not saying that taking pineapple extract is bad for you, It actually looks very good, there have been medications discovered directly like that. However, there really is no reason to take Bromelain when medications out there are safe and effective for treating the same symptoms. I guess I don't understand the harm in taking pills.

+FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI — 10.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,456

@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
Not all doctors are responsible about the administering of prescriptions. My mom's doctor has been piling them on her for years without getting any results. You'd think she was 80 from all the pills she pops every morning.

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·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,458

@491,453 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)

> I guess I don't understand the harm in taking pills.

Wow, you lack perspective? You? Of all people... wow. I don't even.

Okay, I'll stop. You get enough hate as it is and there's no sense in trolling low hanging fruit or being hateful. You're not out of line, you just don't 'get it', and that's okay.

My background was in pharmacology before I switched gears, and while I did put in a few years there, but full disclosure... before I even entered the field I was a firm believer in holistic approaches for minor issues. And I was biased in the extreme against allopathy, as in even an aspirin or antibiotics were a last resort. So I get where Duck is coming from.

While I believed then as now that many drugs are hugely over prescribed and misused (especially when it comes to antibiotics and ADHD treatments). Eventually I did lighten up towards allopathy because of my experiences with it and seeing the results firsthand, but I also saw the negative impacts and how a careless doctor can easily kill a patient, more on that later.

Nowadays I take a mixed approach and will take pharmaceuticals if I believe it'll help. Still my experiences give me respect for other persons decisions not to resort to 'pills' unless necessary. If it was something life threatening, I wouldn't advocate alternative therapies, but this is minor stuff that can be resolved without pharmaceuticals.

There's plenty of social conditioning when it comes to medicine. Alternative vs Allopathic medicine is a long drawn out issue and there's more variables in play than most people realize (including a metric fuckton of bureaucracy, corruption [both in big pharma, the FDA, and elsewhere], and on the fringe it gets into tinfoil grade conspiracy, etc) when it comes to these seemingly opposing systems.

To reiterate, my feelings are simple, these approaches need not be adversarial, and generally work best together for chronic issues, but for minor issues, such as Duck's case of sniffles and cough or w/e, 'alternative medicine' can and do work well, and the patient doesn't end up putting a bunch of extra junk in their body they may not have needed in the first place. Stating that someone has to take 'pills' for a cough and runny nose is outlandish to me though. It's definitely not the only or even necessarily the best approach.

Like any medicine (alternative or allopathic), various people will respond better to some treatments than others. In other words, your mileage may vary, but that's across the board for any treatment. Your body has to filter whatever you put into it and some of it can do more harm than good in different individuals, once again, YMMV. When it comes to Western medicine you always have to weigh the therapeutic value of a treatment versus it's inherent risks and every patient will have different variables which can tip the scales in one direction or another, sometimes doctors are less thorough when weighing these options and cause more harm than good, but you can't always predict these negative outcomes either, because there may be variables that you either didn't or couldn't account for. Combining pharmaceuticals can be a risky business and trying to account for drug-drug interactions and whether a risk is worth it isn't always an easy task and doctors will take different approaches based on their own experiences.However you slice or dice it, pharmaceuticals do carry inherent risks regardless of you not seeing the 'harm' in taking a 'pill'.

There are of course some people who would rather not be dependent on pharmaceuticals and see them as a crutch, others more extreme on the spectrum think of them as 'poison', and even those that's an extreme outlook, it's easy to see how people view it that way. There's plenty of ongoing and past lawsuits/litigation against pharmaceutical companies with good justification and people who have been adversely affected by 'pills'.

For me, I believe in just doing what works for you. Everybody is different. As far as it goes, I don't even discount potential therapeutic value of the placebo effect. My advice to you is if this thing isn't your cup of tea, don't drink it.

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,459

@previous (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)

TL;DR There can be harm in taking 'pills' and they're not always the best/only solution.

P.S. Sprite.

P.P.S. Srenob.

P.P.P.S.
> Autistic word salad.

·FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI — 10.1 years ago, 10 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,460

@previous (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
There was nothing autistic, nor salad-y about that post.

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,462

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Pfft, you're biased, but I'll still hate you forever over the moon/twilight thing you know. <3

Tbh, I probably could've cut 50%-75% of that out, but I might be a little high and in my normal ramble mode... so it seems like autistic alphabet soup to me. Next time I'll put it in MLA format when I want to write an small shitpost essay on the fly.

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·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 14 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,463

@491,458 (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
Oh no I get it, I just don't see why this is such a huge deal for you. These medications have been around for decades and have been thoroughly researched. The side effects are minimal if a PT does in fact even get any of them. They are all generally regarded as safe and on the WHO's list of essential medications. Every single one of them. I agree, some medications are over prescribed, it is an issue but it is not with the drugs I recommended. I don't see how there can be harm in taking them, Johnson & Johnson isn't getting sued over benadryl. They are prescribed over and over without seeing any severe side effects. I think taking some allergy medications in a new country would be a good idea and good practice. The body reacts to these unknown substances triggering an immune response. You are choosing between a medicine you know will work vs a pineapple extract that might help. It seems like a no brainer to me. Don't get me wrong, I understand that there are some medications discovered through extracting chemicals from plants and bacteria and shit, we discover new antibiotics and chemotherapy drugs through this. But when medical science all points to these medicines being the best course of treatment, that has thousands of man hours behind these drugs supporting their efficacy vs an extract that has a few research articles pointing to it being a promising extract prompting further research, it seems like a no brainer to me. I will take the pills any day.

Yes some medications do cause severe side effects and are weighed against the disease or disorder they treat and it is usually seen that it is worth the risk. You make a choice when you take medicine and must weigh the side effects with the intended benefit and be an educated consumer. Many don't and that is how these lawsuits arise. Some companies deserve it, some honestly don't. Anyways personally I think homeopathic medicine is a bunch of pseudo science that gets people killed that would have otherwise survived if they had taken a conventional approach. One of the prominent examples of this is Steve Jobs. Here is a list of people who have died because they followed a homeopathic approach instead of a conventional one.

EDIT: Please do not take this in a negative way. I am not saying you are one of those people recommending alternative treatments over conventional ones when it is something serious. ALternative medicine as a whole just leaves a bad taste in my mouth as a result of shit heads who do.

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·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,464

@491,459 (Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk)
You are just like me, passionate about what you believe in and it shows. I do it with trans posts, you do it with alternative medicine.

·FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI — 10.1 years ago, 14 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,465

@491,463 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
> Johnson & Johnson isn't getting sued over benadryl
Because Autphag doesn't trust jews; but even if he put that aside, he still can't afford a lawyer.

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 15 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,467

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> Autphag doesn't trust jews
That is the understatement of the year. Autphag hates jews. Did you see the "Autphag recommended reading list"? It is neo nazi propaganda.

·FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI — 10.1 years ago, 10 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,469

@previous (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
I gave up on reading his posts when he left TC 2 years ago. When he showed up on MC his posts were so dense with pretentious pseudo-intellectualism that it was like swimming in concrete.

(Edited 16 seconds later.)

·Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo — 10.1 years ago, 13 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,471

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I still try because I want to help...Just don't know how...

·Dajjal !M6R0eWkIpk — 10.1 years ago, 46 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,475

@491,463 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)

Like I said, I believe in a mixed approach and as I said above already I wouldn't suggest alternative therapy for leukemia or any life other threatening illness unless it was in addition to allopathic medicine. Maybe you just glossed over that.

Homeopathy is mostly bunk aside from placebo, that much is established, but I'm advocating alternative therapies and herbal medicine in addition to or as an alternative to pharmaceuticals. Chiropractors, acupuncture/acupressure, herbal medicine, meditation, breathing exercises, etc. Not everyone benefits from it, some do, just like allopathic medicine.

The list of people killed by homeoapthy, even if I was a huge proponent of it, isn't even a drop in the bucket in comparison to the deaths from pharmaceuticals, once again, see: "Few know that systematic reviews of hospital charts found that even properly prescribed drugs (aside from misprescribing, overdosing, or self-prescribing) cause about 1.9 million hospitalizations a year. Another 840,000 hospitalized patients are given drugs that cause serious adverse reactions for a total of 2.74 million serious adverse drug reactions. About 128,000 people die from drugs prescribed to them. This makes prescription drugs a major health risk, ranking 4th with stroke as a leading cause of death. The European Commission estimates that adverse reactions from prescription drugs cause 200,000 deaths; so together, about 328,000 patients in the U.S. and Europe die from prescription drugs each year. The FDA does not acknowledge these facts and instead gathers a small fraction of the cases."

For example I wouldn't be opposed to someone with chronic pain trying alternative therapies or someone with a cold using saline flush and delicious pineapple to exorcise the coughing and runny nose djinn. Those are manageable conditions. Terminal illnesses are entirely different, but a lot which can heal, can also kill. Aegrescit medendo.

J&J has been sued over benadryl and cases have been thrown out (not to mention being sued for talcum powder causing ovarian cancver, contaminated tylenol, and the list goes on). Benadryl can and has killed people, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. It's not like I said it's going to kill Duck, myself, you, etc, but hey, it's possible. Someone with hypotension or other issues could have an adverse reaction for sure. If you look above, I initially suggested OTC medication, the individual was interested in a natural approach, so I suggested some drug free therapies that were easily accessible.

Do you think pineapple and saline is going to kill someone with a cough and running nose? I think they'll be fine, bud.

Consider it this way, someone has made a lifestyle choice, right? So what I don't understand is why you can't just respect that when you keep bringing up a lifestyle choice you made that you want respect for (even though it was entirely irrelevant to the conversation at hand, but w/e, idgaf).

@491,464 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)

> You are just like me, passionate about what you believe in and it shows. I do it with trans posts, you do it with alternative medicine.

Uh... if you say so. (・_・ヾ

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,476

@491,456 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
My mom's the same. She has been taking several pills every day for all i can remember & is stilll one of the môre sick people i know. They are no help at all. She will take Pills every day until she probably dies from it.

@491,463 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
Man...those Pills have been around for decades . Our immune system has been around much longer. We have survived on our own pretty damn well out in the wild, now we can barely do anything for ourselves. I don't like it

I have a cough, no other symptoms, no stuffed nose, weird coloured mucus or aches and pains. I really don't think Pills are necessary

·Ducky !MwWb.dJjRc (OP) — 10.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #491,478

@491,471 (Nexi !tRAnsGiRLo)
@491,469 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Please don't talk about him in my thread make your own thread , or better yet, keep autfag discussion to MC only. Thanks. Love you.

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