Topic: Archaeologists uncover a 5,000-year-old beer recipe in China
+Anonymous A — 10.1 years ago #44,792
An ancient Chinese beer recipe brewed 5,000 years ago calls for some unusual ingredients by today's standards: barley, broomcorn millets and Job’s tears, as well as bits of bulbous root vegetables such as snake gourd root, yam and lily.
{*TC editors note: snake gourd root = healthy laxative.}
The Yangshao people, who inhabited northeastern China, made their beer by following a complicated fermenting process of malting and mashing together starchy plants, not unlike today's methods. They added tubers — the snake gourd, yam and lily — to sweeten the concoction.
Researchers at Stanford University were able to piece together the formula for Neolithic beer by analyzing a yellowish residue found on the remains of various clay funnels, wide-mouthed pots and jars discovered at a Yangshao site, according to a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
Around 2005, archaeologists unearthed the pottery from two different pits while excavating a site known as Mijiaya. When the site's contents were reported in 2012, Stanford archaeologist Li Liu suspected the items might have been used to make alcohol.
The pits were dated to between 3400 and 2900 BC, in the late Yangshao Period. The earliest written record of beer in China wouldn’t appear until much later, toward the end of the Shang Dynasty between 1250 and 1046 BC.
Chinese scholars have speculated for years that the Yangshao culture brewed beer, but they lacked evidence until now, said Jiajing Wang, another Stanford archaeologist and the study's lead author. The findings suggest that the Mijiaya site was home to China's earliest brewery.
Wang and her colleagues' analysis of the 5,000-year-old beer residue revealed the tell-tale signs of an ancient "beer-making toolkit," they wrote in the study.
{*TC editors note: snake gourd root = healthy laxative.}
The Yangshao people, who inhabited northeastern China, made their beer by following a complicated fermenting process of malting and mashing together starchy plants, not unlike today's methods. They added tubers — the snake gourd, yam and lily — to sweeten the concoction.
Researchers at Stanford University were able to piece together the formula for Neolithic beer by analyzing a yellowish residue found on the remains of various clay funnels, wide-mouthed pots and jars discovered at a Yangshao site, according to a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science.
Around 2005, archaeologists unearthed the pottery from two different pits while excavating a site known as Mijiaya. When the site's contents were reported in 2012, Stanford archaeologist Li Liu suspected the items might have been used to make alcohol.
The pits were dated to between 3400 and 2900 BC, in the late Yangshao Period. The earliest written record of beer in China wouldn’t appear until much later, toward the end of the Shang Dynasty between 1250 and 1046 BC.
Chinese scholars have speculated for years that the Yangshao culture brewed beer, but they lacked evidence until now, said Jiajing Wang, another Stanford archaeologist and the study's lead author. The findings suggest that the Mijiaya site was home to China's earliest brewery.
Wang and her colleagues' analysis of the 5,000-year-old beer residue revealed the tell-tale signs of an ancient "beer-making toolkit," they wrote in the study.
So the team set up their own Yangshao-style experimental brewery.
After identifying the types of grains in the pottery's residue, the researchers let various combinations of millets and barley sit in water until they began to germinate, a process called malting.
During malting, enzymes in the sprouting grains break down starches into simple sugars. That process creates distinctive pits on the grains, which the researchers noticed on both the ancient samples and their own test brew.
Once the grains had been sufficiently soaked, it was time to create the mash. The malt was drained, dried, crushed and mixed with hot water.
The mashing process caused the grains to swell, fold over and gelatinize. The researchers found similarly distorted grains in the historical samples.
The mash was then cooled to room temperature and fermented for two days in an airtight brewing container.
After identifying the types of grains in the pottery's residue, the researchers let various combinations of millets and barley sit in water until they began to germinate, a process called malting.
During malting, enzymes in the sprouting grains break down starches into simple sugars. That process creates distinctive pits on the grains, which the researchers noticed on both the ancient samples and their own test brew.
Once the grains had been sufficiently soaked, it was time to create the mash. The malt was drained, dried, crushed and mixed with hot water.
The mashing process caused the grains to swell, fold over and gelatinize. The researchers found similarly distorted grains in the historical samples.
The mash was then cooled to room temperature and fermented for two days in an airtight brewing container.
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http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-beer-ancient-china-20160525-snap-story.html#nt=blogroll
+Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo — 10.1 years ago, 32 minutes later[T] [B] #489,909
:O OMG CHINA IS THE TRUE AND HONEST BEER CREATOR?
+Anonymous C — 10.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #489,910
·Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo — 10.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #489,911
+Anonymous D — 10.1 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #489,913
@489,909 (Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo)> Chemical tests of ancient pottery jars reveal that beer was produced as far back as about 7,000 years ago in what is today Iran.
Syntax will not be able to say beer was invented by Rag Heads. Rag Heads were not invented until until 6000 years later. Settlements known as Tepe Sialk and or Chogha Mish may be responsible for inventing something better that Budweiser aka piss water american beer.
+Maddy !kCITGirlXc — 10.1 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,926
·Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo — 10.1 years ago, 33 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,927
·Maddy !kCITGirlXc — 10.1 years ago, 11 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,928
@previous (Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo)
Well, actually it was ancient Iran, but close. http://www.openculture.com/2015/03/the-oldest-beer-recipe-in-history.html
Well, actually it was ancient Iran, but close. http://www.openculture.com/2015/03/the-oldest-beer-recipe-in-history.html
·Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo — 10.1 years ago, 38 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,929
@previous (Maddy !kCITGirlXc)
> 1800 B.C.
well dats old, but that's like, 4000yrs ago at most. So if this chinky receipe turns out to be a serious beer brewing receipe, then, well, shit bricks.
> 1800 B.C.
well dats old, but that's like, 4000yrs ago at most. So if this chinky receipe turns out to be a serious beer brewing receipe, then, well, shit bricks.
+Syntax — 10.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,931
@489,909 (Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo)
I love this subject AND I love this topic. (Hidden Admin, name not pubic yet - might have huge smile re well ..anyway
Have learned a bunch of stuff Quickly. Wood never have learned what I did, without the Questions. By the way I also really like this new TC - Compared to the last few months of old TC - This place is more better n not everyone has found their way here yet (wood be nice if a couple remain lost)
So to On's
> :O OMG CHINA IS THE TRUE AND HONEST BEER CREATOR?
The answer is no [Except maybe Yes re Diggers are still digging for evidence]- However I just learned China IS THE First (so far discovered) To have invented ALCOHOL for consumption: Fermented drink made of grapes, hawthorn berries, honey, and rice was being produced in 7000–6650 BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_beverages
AND
> Wine's first appearance is thought to date from 6000 BC in Georgia.
Wot? Georgia like Atlanta area
> The earliest firm evidence of wine production dates back to 5400 BC in Iran
> The Hebrew Bible recommends giving alcoholic drinks to those who are dying or depressed, so that they can forget their misery (Proverbs 31:6-7)
Gotta love dem Jews - Even Ducky now do
Short on time for play which makes it short on research for peeps here Yet I found this article a quick and fun read
http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/who-invented-beer
12,000 years ago. As hunter-gatherer tribes settled into agrarian civilizations based around staple crops like wheat, rice, barley and maize, they may have also stumbled upon the fermentation process and started brewing beer.
The earliest known alcoholic beverage is a 9,000-year-old Chinese concoction made from rice, honey and fruit, but the first barley beer was most likely born in the Middle East.
Best if you read the article and there is a 3 Min video I have yet to view
Found this about Modern China where Beer contained stuff to prepare people for Embalmers
> Chinese beers often contain rice, sorghum and sometimes rye in addition to barley. Interestingly, some beer is produced that uses bitter melon instead of hops as the bittering agent.
> Chinese media reported in 2001 that as many as 95% of all Chinese beers contained formaldehyde, to prevent sedimentation in bottles and cans while in storage. This practice has now been made illegal.[citation needed] Hummmmm LoL
Work Work it can be a mean taskmaster when a client has rolled out a brand new product which is just NOT market ready but people see ads on TV - Print and well dat all I be saying cause anymore might get me in trouble maybe
Actually this problem of Market~tears vs Engineers is the norm - After all we all can look at Microshit and see how patches is Totally a way of life Apple less so but they based O/S on UNIX - Wayyyyyy more better aka Android as well.
Still needs design changes upgrades revisions Evolution and then when people stop buy cause who needs another cell phone or Marketing new gimmick that uses cell technology - Just come out with a new fancy package and add some more pixels for camera and Sell the fucking hell out of it cause people love to spend money
I love this subject AND I love this topic. (Hidden Admin, name not pubic yet - might have huge smile re well ..anyway
Have learned a bunch of stuff Quickly. Wood never have learned what I did, without the Questions. By the way I also really like this new TC - Compared to the last few months of old TC - This place is more better n not everyone has found their way here yet (wood be nice if a couple remain lost)
So to On's
> :O OMG CHINA IS THE TRUE AND HONEST BEER CREATOR?
The answer is no [Except maybe Yes re Diggers are still digging for evidence]- However I just learned China IS THE First (so far discovered) To have invented ALCOHOL for consumption: Fermented drink made of grapes, hawthorn berries, honey, and rice was being produced in 7000–6650 BC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_alcoholic_beverages
AND
> Wine's first appearance is thought to date from 6000 BC in Georgia.
Wot? Georgia like Atlanta area
> The earliest firm evidence of wine production dates back to 5400 BC in Iran
> The Hebrew Bible recommends giving alcoholic drinks to those who are dying or depressed, so that they can forget their misery (Proverbs 31:6-7)
Gotta love dem Jews - Even Ducky now do
Short on time for play which makes it short on research for peeps here Yet I found this article a quick and fun read
http://www.history.com/news/ask-history/who-invented-beer
12,000 years ago. As hunter-gatherer tribes settled into agrarian civilizations based around staple crops like wheat, rice, barley and maize, they may have also stumbled upon the fermentation process and started brewing beer.
The earliest known alcoholic beverage is a 9,000-year-old Chinese concoction made from rice, honey and fruit, but the first barley beer was most likely born in the Middle East.
Best if you read the article and there is a 3 Min video I have yet to view
Found this about Modern China where Beer contained stuff to prepare people for Embalmers
> Chinese beers often contain rice, sorghum and sometimes rye in addition to barley. Interestingly, some beer is produced that uses bitter melon instead of hops as the bittering agent.
> Chinese media reported in 2001 that as many as 95% of all Chinese beers contained formaldehyde, to prevent sedimentation in bottles and cans while in storage. This practice has now been made illegal.[citation needed] Hummmmm LoL
Work Work it can be a mean taskmaster when a client has rolled out a brand new product which is just NOT market ready but people see ads on TV - Print and well dat all I be saying cause anymore might get me in trouble maybe
Actually this problem of Market~tears vs Engineers is the norm - After all we all can look at Microshit and see how patches is Totally a way of life Apple less so but they based O/S on UNIX - Wayyyyyy more better aka Android as well.
Still needs design changes upgrades revisions Evolution and then when people stop buy cause who needs another cell phone or Marketing new gimmick that uses cell technology - Just come out with a new fancy package and add some more pixels for camera and Sell the fucking hell out of it cause people love to spend money
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
·Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo — 10.1 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,932
·R.L. Stine — 10.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,933
@previous (Nugget Springroll !Uvm54ORbmo)
Still nothing, maybe Bert found a new forum to drunkenly spam.
Still nothing, maybe Bert found a new forum to drunkenly spam.
+The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 10.1 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,954
+Anonymous H — 10.1 years ago, 9 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,955
@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)
You mad because no one mentions UK, warm as piss beer.
In Eu the only beer worth drinking, are beers from Germany.
You mad because no one mentions UK, warm as piss beer.
In Eu the only beer worth drinking, are beers from Germany.
·The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 10.1 years ago, 21 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #489,967
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