Topic: Question of the day

+Anonymous A — 11.4 years ago #41,131

Before Mt. Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world?

+On !Uvm54ORbmo — 11.4 years ago, 6 minutes later[T] [B] #449,240

The unnamed mountain that was named Mt. Everest after its discovery

·Anonymous A (OP) — 11.4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #449,241

@previous (On !Uvm54ORbmo)

+Syntax — 11.4 years ago, 19 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #449,245

This is similar to the question

When a tree falls in a forest and no one is around - does it make a sound.

The answer of course is YES - The tree produces sound waves so its not a matter of if anyone is around.

Mt. Everest was/is the tallest mountain discovered or not. Its just simple math.

Of course early on people of their part of planet Earth wood say they have the tallest mountain in the word because they were not aware of areas outside of their part of the planet

+Anonymous D — 11.4 years ago, 6 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #449,248

@(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
You should shut your yap.

·On !Uvm54ORbmo — 11.4 years ago, 53 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #449,250

@449,245 (Syntax )
What if a tree falls and there's no air around?

·Syntax — 11.4 years ago, 38 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,251

@previous (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
Grrrrr

OK will go with this - Image is Tree turned to rock over eons and Trees have fallen down -

So one day when Earth looses all of its atmosphere and current trees end up petrified and they fall down then yes no sound.

+The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 11.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,255

@previous (Syntax )

Sound waves would still travel through the ground.

+Anonymous F — 11.4 years ago, 3 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,261

@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)
did your mom tell you this? go back and tell her she sure is no scientist..

+Anonymous G — 11.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,271

@449,250 (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
lol

+Anonymous H — 11.4 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,273

@449,245 (Syntax )
Taking things too literally and having a shallow view of the world are symptoms of autism. As a person suffering form autism, syntax doesn't understand that the hypothetical about falling trees is an observation about the metaphysics of perception, not vibrations in the air.

C̲̬͈̦ia̯̝̘̤̤o͍͔̙,̬͉̫̲͓̻̜ ͔̦͓͙T͔̘͔̮̹̯he̺̲͙̜ ̪̹D̞͖̯͉̟̪o̮͙̥̬c̦̰̯t̤̥̳o̺̹̲̥r͈̙͓̱͇.̞̯͚̤͕̤̝

·The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 11.4 years ago, 32 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,275

@449,261 (F)

The best thing about this post is that you have absolutely no idea how stupid it makes you look.

·Syntax — 11.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,278

It does come down to language. Sound I just checked 5 dictionary's and only English - All defines end up as acoustic wave that stimulates the ear.

The Pretend Doctor is correct about
> waves would still travel through the ground

Are they sound waves IF No one is around to hear them? Again a matter of who defines those waves and in USA their is a technical standards committee:

Sound is defined by ANSI/ASA S1.1-2013 as "(a) Oscillation in pressure, stress, particle displacement, particle velocity, etc., propagated in a medium with internal forces (e.g., elastic or viscous), or the superposition of such propagated oscillation. (b) Auditory sensation evoked by the oscillation described in (a)

Now ANSI is a USA organization. Other countries may have similar defines or Others

Bottom line is the Frequencies produced are SPECTRUM which wood be independent on creatures around to detect them.

So based on USA Defines of Sound at least as Merriam Webster defines - Requires a Creature with apparatus to detect sound. If such does not exist then the Tree falling in forest wood not produce a sound but wood produce Frequencies that CAN be defined as Sound waves.

Physics vs Language

@449,273 (H)
Anon I

> metaphysics of perception, not vibrations in the air.

Much has been debated in Philosophy which brings in Buddhist views of

I remember the famous Einstein question to Niels Bohr. Looked it up to be accurate about this.

Albert Einstein asked physicist Niels Bohr (One of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics) whether he realistically believed that 'the moon does not exist if nobody is looking at it.' To this Bohr replied that however hard he (Einstein) may try, he would not be able to prove that it does, thus giving the entire riddle the status of a kind of an infallible conjecture---one that cannot be either proved or disproved.

The possibility of unperceived existence - Metaphysics - can end up as Gobble-goop.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 11.4 years ago, 23 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,280

Had no idea my question of the day was going to turn into a huge debate about sound waves... Who knew?

·Anonymous H — 11.4 years ago, 20 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,282

@449,278 (Syntax )
For the amount of effort you put into that post, it's remarkably illegible gibberish.

See: http://www.tinychan.org/topic/41105#reply_449221

C̫̰i͍͖̲͔̗̤̪ao͚̥̪.̱,͙̣͈͖ T̰͈̻̜̙̯h̫̲͇e̞̟͖ ͇͙̺̝̯Ḏo̹̟̲̜̘̙̩c̘̫̲͔t̲̪o͚̺̣̥̻͉̖r̳̹.̰͔̼̤

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·Syntax — 11.4 years ago, 12 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,283

@previous (H)
I suggest you take English 101
Then we can discuss

I not done so much so good in English but for sure my Physics and Math skills turned a Hobby in2 one hell of a lot of Cold Hard Cash!

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

+Morbid !vbsvhaneDY — 11.4 years ago, 40 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,284

@449,280 (A)

Soundwave superior; constructicons inferior.

+Anonymous J — 11.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,299

@449,275 (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

> The best thing about this post is that you have absolutely no idea how stupid it makes you look.

You seem a bit hot under the collar, Doc.

Also...lol, retard :) I love it when you try to talk science and end up looking a right plum

·The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 11.4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,301

@previous (J)

You sound a bit stupid.

·Jelly-Kelly — 11.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,302

@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)

> You sound a bit stupid.

You seem a bit flustered, Doc. Is there something bothering you?

·Anonymous H — 11.4 years ago, 23 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #449,304

@previous (Jelly-Kelly )
...and a bit cross.

C͉ia̪̱̞͉̳̙̠o̲,̲̮̭ ̪͙͇̫̖T̘ḥ͕̤͖̻͈͈e ͉̭̦̲̤͖ͅD̜̩͓͎͓o̯̦͔̗̖͈c̘̹̝̭͍̤͙t̯o̳̝̘r̪̪̝͇.̳̱

·Anonymous F — 11.4 years ago, 19 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,369

the Doctor became stràngely quiet..

+Kenny Curvecock — 11.4 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,372

The question of sound is a little misleading. To fully appreciate the matter, ask yourself, if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound in any circumstances. And that's where you have the discussion of what we mean by the word "sound".

Does a whistle whose frequency is too high to be heard by any animal's ears make a sound? A silent sound? That's like asking what the hues beyond violet look like on the rainbow (to normal human eyes). An invisible hue? Such oxymorons show the philosophy and cognitive psychology students to consider what is meant and to be careful with definitions.

·Anonymous H — 11.4 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,375

@449,369 (F)
Severe mental retardation is a symptom of autism. As a person suffering form autism, Anonymous G thinks that "posting" equals being strangely quiet.

C̪̗̱̥̲i̩̫͈a̯̖̻̯̤̺̫o̰̣̭̪,͖̤̥̦̞̲ ̖͈͕̖T̞̯͎̪͎̮̦h̺͍̗̗̘͎̘e͈̰ ̗̰͓̦D̟̙̜̻ͅo͍͚̼̞͈͇c̹̝ͅt͉͙͈͉̪͓̭o̭͚̬̫̲͇̟r̘̥̠̳.

·Anonymous F — 11.4 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,376

@previous (H)
you're missing your trip....imagine that...I'm missing my Trip...also..

·Anonymous H — 11.4 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,398

@previous (F)
Illegible gibberish. Why don't you tell me what the time is in the UK timezone?

C̜̲̖͈̤ia̟̖̜̦͚̟ͅo,̱͖͚̲̲ ͖T̗̖̤h̜̗̠̹e̤ ̣D̮̹̤o̰ct͍̲̼̠͇̺̖o̫̯̭̦͕̘̪ṟ͖̰̘̞̭͇.

+Anonymous L — 11.4 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #449,426

@previous (H)
Past the Doctor's bed time.

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