Topic: Walter's objectivization can be annoying

+Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs — 12.6 years ago #32,215

However, then I think, inversely, how a radfem is trying to pathologize that behaviour as some inhuman expression of lowly autism ala Grandin's mother's recent paper.

So in trying to avoid hypocrisy, tolerance needs exercised. Wally is confused anyway; I don't think he realizes it is the trap.

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+Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 1 minute later[T] [B] #370,998

Yeah, his utter sexualisation of trans*women is somewhat disturbing. I think tumblr is rubbing off on me. Maybe that isn't a bad thing so far.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #370,999

@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
It isn't tumblr if you feel that instinctually and aren't just substituting conscience with orthodoxy.

But one has to remember the dialectic is, well, dichotomous; the opposition does much worse.

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,000

@previous (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
> the opposition does much worse.
?

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,001

@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
Talking once again specifically about the equation of anything masculine with some pervasive developmental pathology.

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,002

@previous (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
I think a lot of things are defined as masculine that just... aren't.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,004

@previous (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
Which is part of the trick, to make them 'unkosher' in a 'modern society' i.e. one dominated under their ideological lens.

Which things in particular though, out of curiosity?

+ducky !MwWb.dJjRc — 12.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,005

@370,998 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
it is a lil disturbing

+Anonymous D — 12.6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,007

@370,998 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)

There's no sense in bundling sexualization (neutral) and dehumanization (wrong) together as "objectification". Most people treat trans women like shit. Walter is no different, he just happens to have a kink.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,009

@previous (D)
Is it necessarily true that sexualisation is neutral? What are you, sex-positive radfem? Fuck off.

+HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY — 12.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,010

@370,998 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
What good are transwomen if not for sex?

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 58 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,011

@371,004 (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
The first things that come to mind are academics and sports, given that I'm in high school and all. My AP lit class has 4 guys in a class of about 20. AP Chemistry has 4 girls in a class of about 20. AP calc is 6 girls in 23. AP Physics is split about evenly, which is interesting. Pre-calc top set is... 4 girls in ~15?
It's weird to see classes so gender split, cause there's no observable aptitud
e difference.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 6 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,012

@371,010 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
And you eat into the secretive, implicit hypocrisy of sex-positivity-as-a-shield for female promiscuity.

That's why I equate tradcons and radfems as two sides of the same coin.

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 27 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,013

@371,010 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
As people, presumably.

·Anonymous D — 12.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,015

@371,009 (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)

There's nothing harmful about sexualization in itself. Whether it has a positive or negative outcome depends on other things like empathy.

+Anonymous F — 12.6 years ago, 22 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,016

@371,002 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
It seems like society has developed a very warped idea of what is and isn't masculine. Some of the loftier masculine virtues in this paradigm appear to be blissful ignorance (stupidity and faith over knowledge and reason), stoicism, a hearty appetite for self destruction, and so on. I think being a cowboy and smoking may also be masculine qualities. Not 100% though.

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·Anonymous F — 12.6 years ago, 41 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,017

@previous (F)

·HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY — 12.6 years ago, 18 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,018

@371,012 (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
You're a low-T sissy. Of course you have no interest in sex.
@371,013 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
They are people that refuse to take their sanity pills.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 30 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,019

@371,011 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU)
Read some human biodiversity and psychometrics blogs. Lindsay is good for beginners. It's less that these are 'masculine' culturally but that men are driven to them due to biological differences.

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 12 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,020

@371,016 (F)
The stoicism is weird. It's okay to have emotions. :/

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 38 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,021

@371,019 (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
I wouldn't be so sure about that, though.

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 40 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,022

@371,017 (F)
How could I not guess this was Anti... the writing style seemed familiar.

·Triptych !IupsXZPnnU — 12.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #371,023

@371,018 (HaikerensGuide !dBGi/iH4eY)
That's not any less of a person though.

·Antikhristos !M6R0eWkIpk — 12.6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #371,055

@371,020 (Triptych !IupsXZPnnU) It's silly but we've slowly adopted this attitude that it's somehow more manly to just grin and bear it, to just keep things bottled up until you have a breakdown. Shit's fucked, yo.

@371,022 (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
Nonsense.

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+Anonymous G — 12.6 years ago, 7 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #371,241

itt: much ado about nothing..

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #371,332

@previous (G)
Sure, Bert.

+Anonymous H — 12.6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #371,333

@previous (Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs)
ornge or lime

+Anonymous I — 12.6 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #371,343

> So in trying to avoid hypocrisy, tolerance needs exercised. Wally is confused anyway; I don't think he realizes it is the trap.

i thought walter got off on traps

·Nautphagina !MLHqI35Srs (OP) — 12.6 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #371,385

@previous (I)
He's living vicariously. S/he actually wants the submissive role, pretty body, to be adored, the lot.

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