Topic: Cute boy I am dating has issues touching me "down there." (Pre-Op Trans Woman)
+Autphagina — 13.1 years ago #24,894
He does it every now and then, but in general he won't touch or rub my genitalia, even with clothing on. I have given him several suggestions for ways to do it that may be less uncomfortable, but even if he does it, it's only for a few seconds. On a few occasions he has touched me enough to give me an orgasm, and it was an amazing experience that made me feel incredibly close to him.
He really likes anal sex, which is fun, but I can't orgasm from anal sex alone. I can give myself a "helping hand," but it also takes me a while to come. And even then, it's not the same.
Worse, he almost always has an orgasm before I can, even if I am playing with myself, and after he isn't very into the act anymore, making it much more difficult for me. Whenever we have sex it seems like the entire point is for him to stick his penis in me and get off. After that, his interest wanes considerably. (Unless he decides to get off again.) It's becoming very frustrating.
I don't entirely understand because to me, I enjoy making him feel good in whatever way he enjoys. I really enjoy pleasing him, and he never fails to enjoy himself either.
When I have talked to him about it, he complained that I was difficult to get off and that his ex-girlfriend would have 3 or 4 orgasms in the same span of time that we have penetrative sex, even from anal.
I've at least talked him into playing with my breasts more, but he doesn't seem to be very into that either. It's like he is half asleep, and he just strums at my nipples like a guitar. From our talks about it, it seems like he feels pleasuring me with his penis should be enough. (Or at least that is what he wants to do.)
I want to have surgery, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. And I have problems with my condition as well; it's no fun. The best I can do is just try to treat it like an oversized clit. But this is just making it worse.
We have sex 2 - 3 times per week, and in 9 months together he has never failed to get hard or have at least 1 orgasm, even when he touched my genitalia. I wish I could have an orgasm through other means, but I haven't found one.
I know it's a lot to ask when I know he doesn't feel comfortable with my lack of vagina, but at the same time I would do and have done things to make him feel good I didn't really want to do either. And the problem is obviously bigger than him not touching me.
How can I approach this without causing more problems or demanding too much of him? Part of me feels like I should just be grateful he is interested at all, but I know I should have more self-respect than that as well. Does anyone have any suggestions for ways to improve the situation? Maybe other things to try? (Has anyone else been in this situation?) Help!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Boyfriend always has an orgasm, but won't help me have an orgasm. He comes and loses interest.
He really likes anal sex, which is fun, but I can't orgasm from anal sex alone. I can give myself a "helping hand," but it also takes me a while to come. And even then, it's not the same.
Worse, he almost always has an orgasm before I can, even if I am playing with myself, and after he isn't very into the act anymore, making it much more difficult for me. Whenever we have sex it seems like the entire point is for him to stick his penis in me and get off. After that, his interest wanes considerably. (Unless he decides to get off again.) It's becoming very frustrating.
I don't entirely understand because to me, I enjoy making him feel good in whatever way he enjoys. I really enjoy pleasing him, and he never fails to enjoy himself either.
When I have talked to him about it, he complained that I was difficult to get off and that his ex-girlfriend would have 3 or 4 orgasms in the same span of time that we have penetrative sex, even from anal.
I've at least talked him into playing with my breasts more, but he doesn't seem to be very into that either. It's like he is half asleep, and he just strums at my nipples like a guitar. From our talks about it, it seems like he feels pleasuring me with his penis should be enough. (Or at least that is what he wants to do.)
I want to have surgery, but that isn't going to happen anytime soon. And I have problems with my condition as well; it's no fun. The best I can do is just try to treat it like an oversized clit. But this is just making it worse.
We have sex 2 - 3 times per week, and in 9 months together he has never failed to get hard or have at least 1 orgasm, even when he touched my genitalia. I wish I could have an orgasm through other means, but I haven't found one.
I know it's a lot to ask when I know he doesn't feel comfortable with my lack of vagina, but at the same time I would do and have done things to make him feel good I didn't really want to do either. And the problem is obviously bigger than him not touching me.
How can I approach this without causing more problems or demanding too much of him? Part of me feels like I should just be grateful he is interested at all, but I know I should have more self-respect than that as well. Does anyone have any suggestions for ways to improve the situation? Maybe other things to try? (Has anyone else been in this situation?) Help!
Thanks!
tl;dr: Boyfriend always has an orgasm, but won't help me have an orgasm. He comes and loses interest.
+Anonymous B — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later[T] [B] #296,624
> Boyfriend always has an orgasm, but won't help me have an orgasm. He comes and loses interest.
All boyfriends ever
All boyfriends ever
+TG2ScattySoxBobbyIcar !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,630
Why are you doing this?
·TG2ScattySoxBobbyIcar !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,632
Why are you doing this?
+Anonymous D — 13.1 years ago, 8 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,635
Replace tran with ducky in your title, or face permanent ban.
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 40 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,636
·Anonymous D — 13.1 years ago, 26 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,649
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
But it still follows the rules see:
(Pre-Op ducky Woman)
It could mean anything. Perhaps ducky is just getting ready to haver her tonsils out, or a boob job or something.
But it still follows the rules see:
(Pre-Op ducky Woman)
It could mean anything. Perhaps ducky is just getting ready to haver her tonsils out, or a boob job or something.
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,651
@previous (D)
Pre-op has one universal context, because no other operation is important enough that anybody has to attention whore their status actively.
Pre-op has one universal context, because no other operation is important enough that anybody has to attention whore their status actively.
+Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.1 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,673
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,677
@previous (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)
People die from cancer because the operative procedures are designed to exacerbate the speed of death.
There's a quota system for cancer patient recovery success which involves setting an arbitrary length of time as a benchmark, say 5 years, and anyone who lives 5.1 years automatically becomes a 'cancer survivor', a completely preposterous notion, but nonetheless, showing the sham that is our healthcare industry.
People die from cancer because the operative procedures are designed to exacerbate the speed of death.
There's a quota system for cancer patient recovery success which involves setting an arbitrary length of time as a benchmark, say 5 years, and anyone who lives 5.1 years automatically becomes a 'cancer survivor', a completely preposterous notion, but nonetheless, showing the sham that is our healthcare industry.
·Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.1 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,684
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
What the fuck are you going on about, I was talking about people attention whoring with it.
What the fuck are you going on about, I was talking about people attention whoring with it.
+Solar — 13.1 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,685
Dear forum members!My name is Solar. I am new here. I am excited to join such a distinguished group of intelligent people from diverse cultures.
My hobbie happens to coincide with my day job - I am an artist and a psychic.
Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you all!
Cheers,
Solar.
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,687
@296,684 (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)
But the pre-operative status can't really be exploited as much, you're inevitably facing death and there's no climatic "I'm a reformed, butchered, refreshed Frankenstein!" epoch or whatever.
But the pre-operative status can't really be exploited as much, you're inevitably facing death and there's no climatic "I'm a reformed, butchered, refreshed Frankenstein!" epoch or whatever.
·Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.1 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,699
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
Doesn't mean people don't exploit it for attention, and there certainly is a climactic "I'm a cancer survivor" epoch, whether it lasts long before they die or not. Might not be exploited as much but it can and does happen.
Doesn't mean people don't exploit it for attention, and there certainly is a climactic "I'm a cancer survivor" epoch, whether it lasts long before they die or not. Might not be exploited as much but it can and does happen.
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,705
@previous (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)
For one, I've never personally heard or even read anybody who calls themselves a "pre-operative cancer survivor", it just doesn't roll off naturally in the same way as "pre-operative transsexual", though disgusting, seems to fit all too well; it implies there's something to be imperfected, and butchered, the entire thrill of the quasi-fetishism of autogynephillia.
In any case, I do know that between the two, I'd have more sympathy for a cancer survivor, even the mentally ill sympathy-seeking self-pitying mopers, than any transfreak no matter how humble the latter by comparison, hands down. I know what the latter are all about deep down, and it is a moral cancer that metastasizes across a further reach of our fabric than any other cancer ever could.
For one, I've never personally heard or even read anybody who calls themselves a "pre-operative cancer survivor", it just doesn't roll off naturally in the same way as "pre-operative transsexual", though disgusting, seems to fit all too well; it implies there's something to be imperfected, and butchered, the entire thrill of the quasi-fetishism of autogynephillia.
In any case, I do know that between the two, I'd have more sympathy for a cancer survivor, even the mentally ill sympathy-seeking self-pitying mopers, than any transfreak no matter how humble the latter by comparison, hands down. I know what the latter are all about deep down, and it is a moral cancer that metastasizes across a further reach of our fabric than any other cancer ever could.
·Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.1 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,717
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
What, you don't like transsexuals? Why didn't you tell us this before now Autphag?
What, you don't like transsexuals? Why didn't you tell us this before now Autphag?
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,719
@previous (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)
Your sarcasm aside: my reiteration of this point may seem a bit excessive, but they've really been ramping up the offensive over the past couple of months; the media has been bashing the faggot gospel like mad, for the morally righteous it is the utmost of duties to lay the law and defend our ground.
Your sarcasm aside: my reiteration of this point may seem a bit excessive, but they've really been ramping up the offensive over the past couple of months; the media has been bashing the faggot gospel like mad, for the morally righteous it is the utmost of duties to lay the law and defend our ground.
·Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,724
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
Is the most utmost of duties you can perform complaining about trannies on here? Is that the extent of your contribution to the good fight, or are you actually doing something productive too?
Is the most utmost of duties you can perform complaining about trannies on here? Is that the extent of your contribution to the good fight, or are you actually doing something productive too?
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,726
@previous (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)
> like they'd let me publicize this anywhere else
You're funny.
Protests aren't allowed to take place unless they're heavily left-wing in bias and government commissioned false-flags from the get go.
There's very little I can do in the way of productive counter-activity against this threat beyond my usual dissemination of propaganda.
> like they'd let me publicize this anywhere else
You're funny.
Protests aren't allowed to take place unless they're heavily left-wing in bias and government commissioned false-flags from the get go.
There's very little I can do in the way of productive counter-activity against this threat beyond my usual dissemination of propaganda.
·Anonymous E — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,732
@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
> like they'd let me publicize this anywhere else
Sounds like a complete cop out to me, have you even tried?
> like they'd let me publicize this anywhere else
Sounds like a complete cop out to me, have you even tried?
·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,734
@previous (E)
Book industry's controlled by Jews, it's a waste of time trying; there's a small handful of really small scale white nationalist publishers in America but I don't know if they'd carry my kind of work with all of this esoteric shit mixed in. What's more, even if I were to self-publish, I don't want anything about my private essentials leaking out (let alone that those who matter already have them; I could hardly stop that, last thing I want is pissants like you lot having hands on that shit.)
Book industry's controlled by Jews, it's a waste of time trying; there's a small handful of really small scale white nationalist publishers in America but I don't know if they'd carry my kind of work with all of this esoteric shit mixed in. What's more, even if I were to self-publish, I don't want anything about my private essentials leaking out (let alone that those who matter already have them; I could hardly stop that, last thing I want is pissants like you lot having hands on that shit.)
(Edited 26 seconds later.)
+quack — 13.1 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,746
tldr
+Anonymous H — 13.1 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,807
Dear Autphagina;
First of all, his x girlfriend did not have several orgasms just because he inserted a penis. Either she lied or he's lying to get you off his back and make you feel inferior to a "real" woman (the more likely scenario IMO)
You've already tried talking to him, and you've made several suggestions. He's not going for any of it. I don't think there's anything left for you to try. It sounds to me like he simply does not care after he shoots his load.
Don't take it personally, I would wager he was like this with his x girlfriend too. Dump him and find someone else. It won't get any better than this.
First of all, his x girlfriend did not have several orgasms just because he inserted a penis. Either she lied or he's lying to get you off his back and make you feel inferior to a "real" woman (the more likely scenario IMO)
You've already tried talking to him, and you've made several suggestions. He's not going for any of it. I don't think there's anything left for you to try. It sounds to me like he simply does not care after he shoots his load.
Don't take it personally, I would wager he was like this with his x girlfriend too. Dump him and find someone else. It won't get any better than this.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
+kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,811
So he's upset that his boyfriend is treating him like a woman? wow
·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,812
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