Topic: Will science render men unnecessary?
+Anonymous A — 13.1 years ago #24,883
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17937813/ns/health-pregnancy/t/will-science-render-men-unnecessary/#.UfAr6Y2Tg8U
I normally don’t spend a great deal of time thinking about my sperm.
But recently a team of scientists announced they had made artificial sperm from human bone marrow , and media reports abounded with the dire news that my goodfellas (and by extension, me) had been rendered unnecessary.
If a woman chose to do so, speculated tabloid journalists, she could make sperm from her own bone marrow, fertilize another woman’s egg --- and voila!
“Men could be completely sidelined,” according to Britain’s Daily Mail.
“Women to Self Create,” blared the headline in Australia’s Daily Telegraph.
“Men beware!” began a story on one U.S. news Web site.
There are at least half a dozen reasons why such speculation is silly, some scientific and some practical. For example, as long as sex feels good and remains no more expensive than dinner and a bottle of wine, most people will use natural-grown sperm.
Still, suggests Gregory Stock, director of the program on medicine, society and technology at the UCLA School of Medicine and the CEO of a biotech company called Signum Biosciences, it is very interesting that there were any stories at all. Experiments have created eggs and sperm, so-called artificial gametes, from embryonic stem cells and other cell types for years now with limited success, so the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap. And the stories are reminiscent of some that were printed 10 years ago when the birth of Dolly the sheep, the first mammal cloned from an adult cell, was announced. We men were declared washed up then, too.
Stock, author of the book “Redesigning Humans,” believes there were so many stories recently because such experiments are as much symbol as science. “The importance is just the idea of two women having a child, one creating sperm and other having an oocyte [egg]. Well, what does that say about marriage laws? About whether men are needed? There are all sorts of ways that play into our psyche, who and what we are, what relationships are all about, the limits of the technological vision of ourselves.”
I just want to know why you women are in such a rush to get rid of us. Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a friendly little book in 2005 called “Are Men Necessary?” Are you trying to give us a complex or something?
As a feminist male I hope this is true
I normally don’t spend a great deal of time thinking about my sperm.
But recently a team of scientists announced they had made artificial sperm from human bone marrow , and media reports abounded with the dire news that my goodfellas (and by extension, me) had been rendered unnecessary.
If a woman chose to do so, speculated tabloid journalists, she could make sperm from her own bone marrow, fertilize another woman’s egg --- and voila!
“Men could be completely sidelined,” according to Britain’s Daily Mail.
“Women to Self Create,” blared the headline in Australia’s Daily Telegraph.
“Men beware!” began a story on one U.S. news Web site.
There are at least half a dozen reasons why such speculation is silly, some scientific and some practical. For example, as long as sex feels good and remains no more expensive than dinner and a bottle of wine, most people will use natural-grown sperm.
Still, suggests Gregory Stock, director of the program on medicine, society and technology at the UCLA School of Medicine and the CEO of a biotech company called Signum Biosciences, it is very interesting that there were any stories at all. Experiments have created eggs and sperm, so-called artificial gametes, from embryonic stem cells and other cell types for years now with limited success, so the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap. And the stories are reminiscent of some that were printed 10 years ago when the birth of Dolly the sheep, the first mammal cloned from an adult cell, was announced. We men were declared washed up then, too.
Stock, author of the book “Redesigning Humans,” believes there were so many stories recently because such experiments are as much symbol as science. “The importance is just the idea of two women having a child, one creating sperm and other having an oocyte [egg]. Well, what does that say about marriage laws? About whether men are needed? There are all sorts of ways that play into our psyche, who and what we are, what relationships are all about, the limits of the technological vision of ourselves.”
I just want to know why you women are in such a rush to get rid of us. Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a friendly little book in 2005 called “Are Men Necessary?” Are you trying to give us a complex or something?
As a feminist male I hope this is true
+Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 13 minutes later[T] [B] #296,520
> without significant success
> the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap.
Some close reading would help. Needless to say, this is as far as mad-feminist scientists will get.
> the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap.
Some close reading would help. Needless to say, this is as far as mad-feminist scientists will get.
+Autophagy — 13.1 years ago, 14 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #296,522
Transhumanism renders gender irrelevat to posthumanoids.
+Anonymous D — 13.1 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,556
> Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island.
Because those stories are targeted to non-alpha men who like to fantasize about lesbians so they aren't reminded about how alpha men are naturally predisposed to getting laid whenever they want while betas masturbate alone in their parents basement.
Because those stories are targeted to non-alpha men who like to fantasize about lesbians so they aren't reminded about how alpha men are naturally predisposed to getting laid whenever they want while betas masturbate alone in their parents basement.
+Anonymous E — 13.1 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,564
> But recently a team of scientists announced they had made artificial sperm from human bone marrow
Is that supposed to make it taste better? Will women swallow?
Cannibal issues.
Is that supposed to make it taste better? Will women swallow?
Cannibal issues.
·Autophagy — 13.1 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #296,582
+Anonymous F — 13.1 years ago, 6 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,793
I've also heard that the reverse of this is becoming a possible reality so it could go either way if left unchecked.
+Anonymous G — 13.1 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,797
@OP
It's those dildo self fucking machines that we have to watch out for. If someone invents a cuddle machine for after it, we'll be making our own godamn sammiches
It's those dildo self fucking machines that we have to watch out for. If someone invents a cuddle machine for after it, we'll be making our own godamn sammiches
·Anonymous D — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,798
+Anonymous H — 13.1 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,801
not really.
even if science can create artificial semen, it will likely be quite pricy, whereas men can do it for free and in huge quantities.
additionally, in order to make sample donations widespread enough to displace the natural method, men would have to be able to make a comfortable living solely from jacking off into a cup or outright enslaved
even if science can create artificial semen, it will likely be quite pricy, whereas men can do it for free and in huge quantities.
additionally, in order to make sample donations widespread enough to displace the natural method, men would have to be able to make a comfortable living solely from jacking off into a cup or outright enslaved
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+Solar — 13.1 years ago, 4 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #296,829
@296,798 (D)> So women can colonize Venus and men can live on Mars?
Nice stuff! I would go for Venus, though, but you all boys go to Mars.
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