Topic: Let's talk about this picture.

+Anonymous A — 13.1 years ago #24,672

+Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 6 minutes later[T] [B] #294,608

> dat neck

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #294,609

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)

This is something I'd like to get introman's opinion on, but I'd also like to hear yours as well... namely when the discussion of trannies comes up, it's usually in regards to MtF and their hormone treatments, but how do you feel about the FtM population? Specifically, and in regards to US law, since testosterone is scheduled, what other things do they do to accomplish their goals (not necessarily just hormone treatments) and are they as big a nuisance as their MtF counterparts?

I can't think of any FtM lolcows either at this point. Certainly none of the same level as Rika.

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 18 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #294,614

@previous (A)
FtM transsexuals are just (allegedly) autistic girls who fail at adapting into the social role as, well, the rabidly insane aspirant-Jewess psychopathic predatory manipulator that seems to comprise modern 'independent woman.' They score higher on the AQ test than three other groups: MtFs, natal males, and natal females, and so I'm surprised there aren't more FtM lolcows, though Mikhail kind of is one in his/her own right.
Mikhail could still obtain testosterone by signing some informed consent obligatory lease/disclaimer of some sort. Then again, it might be that transsexual FtMs are inherent more legit by virtue of being more stable; their story is more likely to be believed by screening psychiatrists for this reason, and so the greater success of obtaining hormones amongst that cohort.

Generally speaking though, even for slightly gender dysphoric women, there's no real incentive for them to do much beyond become a little tomboyish; feminism's insanely pernicious presence creeping through every aspect of the system means that women are currently at a social advantage, to which only Social Justice Warrior freaks in willing denial to defend their privilege narrative are unable to imagine. They would not want to lose their legal protection as the new socio-economic and political elite under the matriarchal hegemony of the declining Celtonegroidal Anglofabian empire.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 8 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #294,617

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
I don't remember who Mikhail is, but I definitely recall some tranny (I think they were FtM, by virtue that they birthed a child) pansexual vegan whatever the fuck that was found on tumblr and was targeted during 789's days... I think he/she/it had a brown son who was in kindergarten and was very easily trolled by those hordes... I don't think that's the same person either.

Would you say that estrogen is a disempowering (and therefore negative) hormone? If FtM can't obtain testosterone, can they do things to lower their estrogen?

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 20 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #294,622

@previous (A)
I know who you are talking about. No, it isn't the same person. Mikhail was Ahuviya's ex-"boyfriend".

Just a pre-emptive warning that I'm about to chemsperg:
Testosterone is still produced in the adrenal glands of women; they can enhance production of this herbally using tribulus, D-Aspartic acid, or by taking a supplement full of pure sarponins. Supplements such as Zinc (at high enough doses) also increase blood serum testosterone levels, helping to retain it in the blood. You can also block the aromataze enzymatic pathway (I showed a steroigenesis diagram exhibiting the significance of this) which would stop this testosterone just being converted back into estrogen, which would be the tendency in estrogenic hormonal dominance as is the default in females; D-Forma is one such aromatase blocker, chrysin, though less potent and not so efficacious, at high enough doses would work just as well. Vitamin D is also known to elevate testosterone levels, as is B12 and generally the whole B-vitamin complex, again at superdosages.

Is estrogen disempowering? Not if your desired effect is to attain recognition as a woman or otherwise effeminate which would get you kudos or even legal tutleage in a feminist, cultural Marxist dominated society. Also its neurological impacts should not be underestimated: it's great if you want to become an unstable, bipolar, verbally loquacious (though superficial and glib), manipulative and psychopathic strategic genius in the socialite scene. Just expect for your visuo-spacial ability, abstract thinking capacity, cerebral laterality, and general practical abilities to go down the toilet; those are all mediated more by testosterone and other androgenic substances, and explains the 0.66 S.D. or so gap (about 10 IQ points) between female and male aggregate mean intelligence. It certainly is disempowering if you want to use your new-found intellectual/physical womanhood for anything useful; you simply couldn't.

(Edited 5 minutes later.)

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #294,625

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
Oh right. That Mikhail. I remember now.

Still trying to remember the name of the tumblr FtM person. It's not coming to me right away, but I'm glad you know what I'm talking about. I think being FtM was the LEAST of that person's problems.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #294,627

@294,622 (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
I've seen/heard both sides of this in regards to whether or not MtF trannies are compatibile with feminism, primarily whether or not they enjoy the same kind of 'priveleges' or are accepted by that group. Some do, some don't. It seems like they are polarized by the thought, even if some enjoy the idea of male castration, it's the 'next best thing' so to speak?

I don't even know where it stands from a legal standpoint.

+Red Creme !Soda7m0OQk — 13.1 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[T] [B] #294,694

+morbid — 13.1 years ago, 5 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #294,712

@OP
Looks like Athens, Georgia.

+fullmouthextraction !2CQezZ7g6I — 13.1 years ago, 54 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #294,717

@previous (morbid )
looks like new york

+introman !vDS3LCZBsU — 13.1 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,863

@294,609 (A)
FtM trannies aren't as bad but they can still be quite annoying. Especially for the fact that they try to be "stereotypical" dudes but with female mannerisms. The surgery that most FtM get are masectomies. The fake penis is much harder to make than the fake penis.

@294,617 (A)
That tranny said it was a man but did none of the work aka mones/surgeries. The modern generation of tranny is just bitching that you don't magically notice the skinny man with a mustache is a "womyn"/

+Anonymous G — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,864

@294,694 (Red Creme !Soda7m0OQk)
Trell'd!

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,866

@294,863 (introman !vDS3LCZBsU)
Do FtM use a term similar to "womyn"? I don't think I've ever seen "myn" thrown around or whatever their take-the-power-back PC term is.

·introman !vDS3LCZBsU — 13.1 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,871

@previous (A)

No, but I know FTM use different terminology. I just had the displeasure of knowing FtM trannies and their issues even more.

+kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,875

@294,863 (introman !vDS3LCZBsU)
correct

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,876

@294,871 (introman !vDS3LCZBsU)
Have you seen any of their created genitalia?

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,878

@294,871 (introman !vDS3LCZBsU)
Are there any FtMs that associate with the Philly group?

·introman !vDS3LCZBsU — 13.1 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,879

@294,876 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)

I don't like to call it genitalia. It's just pure mutilation for mental psychosis. It doesn't function like genitalia, so it's not geniality to me.

@previous (A)
Yea, but they tend to not be around the MtF prostitution circle that formed around william way/mazzoni center.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,880

@previous (introman !vDS3LCZBsU)
Raises any question and I'd rather not know the details but I imagine these weirdos are probably doing all sorts of weird depraved shit to each other.

What really baffles me most is how they are being bankrolled during all of this.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,881

@previous (A)
Even prison inmates can get state funded hormones and sex reassignment surgeries.

·Red Creme !Soda7m0OQk — 13.1 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,886

@294,864 (G)
0/10 bud

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,889

> ITT: Jewish crypto-transsexual misinformation agents trying to bait the competition into backing off

·Anonymous G — 13.1 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[T] [B] #294,891

@294,886 (Red Creme !Soda7m0OQk)
Trell'd.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 12 hours later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,144

@294,881 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
Source? Any statistics? Does anyone know how often this happens? I find that hard to believe (although not impossible by any stretch) considering how bad US Healthcare is, not to mention I've heard stories of inmates regularly being denied health medication they are already on (for vital things such as heart medicine).

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,146

@previous (A)
I dont know of how often but I know it does, Look up Richard Speck and learn of his hormones and wild prison parties

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,147

@295,144 (A)
The only real difference between healthcare in the US and Europe is that one is tyranny by faux-market insurance pools and the other is tyranny by state-centralism and deadly inflexible guideline targets. They yield about the same mortality results when the statistical manipulation is stripped down, which is actually worse than it has historically been.

+Anonymous I — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,149

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
who was talking about europe?

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,150

@295,146 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
I know of Richard Speck, and vaguely remember what you're talking about but everything I'm reading suggests that those hormones were smuggled in and possibly forced on him.

Conversely, if you look up Bob Berdella who was another serial killer that lived and died around Speck's time, he died from a heart attack because he wasn't receiving his medication.

To me, I still need to find some harder evidence.

+Anonymous J — 13.1 years ago, 24 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,151

@295,146 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
I remember that video with the black guy. Disgusting for so many reasons.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,152

@previous (J)
I dont recall

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,153

@295,150 (A)
I'll look and show you. It further sickens me that some can get legal hormones but not heart medication. wtf?

(Edited 1 minute later.)

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,154

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/04/13660348-sex-change-surgery-for-prison-inmate-granted-by-judge?lite

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,156

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
It's a very strange place idneed when people are literally killing each other to receive health care of any sort, be it hormone therapy or otherwise.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 57 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,157

http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights/fields-v-smith-case-profile

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,158

@295,156 (A)
What does this statement mean? Who has killed to get medical treatment?

·Anonymous J — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,160

@295,152 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rLXi2L_s8OY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrLXi2L_s8OY

Actual vid starts about 1:58

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,162

Are you saying that Speck killed to get hormones?

Quote about/from him:
In May 1996, Chicago television news anchor Bill Kurtis received video tapes made at Stateville Prison in 1988 from an anonymous attorney. Showing them publicly for the first time before the Illinois state legislature, Kurtis pointed out the explicit scenes of sex, drug use, and money being passed around by prisoners, who seemingly had no fear of being caught; in the center of it all was Speck, performing oral sex on another inmate,[41][42] sharing a huge pile of cocaine with an inmate, parading in silk panties, sporting female-like breasts (allegedly grown using smuggled hormone treatments), and boasting, "If they only knew how much fun I was having, they'd turn me loose."[41] The Illinois legislature packed the auditorium to view the two-hour video,[41] but stopped the screening when the film showed Speck performing oral sex on another man.[42]

From behind the camera, a prisoner asked Speck if he had killed the nurses. Speck responded, "Sure I did." When asked why. Speck shrugged and jokingly said, "It just wasn't their night." Asked how he felt about himself in the years since, he said, "Like I always felt ... had no feeling. If you're asking me if I felt sorry, no." He also described in detail the experience of strangling someone: "It's not like TV ... it takes over three minutes and you have to have a lot of strength."[41] John Schmale, the brother of one of the murdered student nurses, said, "It was a very painful experience watching him tell about how he killed my sister." [

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,164

@295,160 (J)
Thank you, watching now

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,167

@295,162 (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
No, the first article you mentioned involving Kosilek. It doesn't state that implicitly that he killed his wife for this end, but that he had gender identity disorder and using his prison woes as a means to obtain hormones otherwise. My mistake.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,169

@295,160 (J)
Snorting cocaine off a black guys leg

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 41 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,171

@295,167 (A)
Yes, because its easier to just kill someone than ordering hormones from Mexico, jesus christ.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,172

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
Sounds extreme.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,175

@previous (A)
Sounds like a ridiculous excuse

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,176

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
@295,172 (A)
Sounds like it's nothing worth arguing about.
It's like you obsess over this degeneracy because you secretly wish to partake in it.

·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.1 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,179

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
I'm not in favor of giving hormones to someone who is already mentally depraved enough to murder their spouse for spilling tea on their genitals. I think it even more absurd to make taxpayers afford them the sex reassignment surgery or the extra special treatment to house them elsewhere because they found themselves in a place with deviants of a different nature.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,180

@295,176 (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
You've mentioned trannies more than all of us combined. Seriously, live your dream or fuck off

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,182

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
Kook, you're the only dreamer here.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,187

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/sep/04/transexual-prisoner-moved-womens-prison

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,189

@295,182 (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
Yep. dreaming of us rubbin cocks

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,214

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2349852/Transsexual-serve-prison-sentence-robbery-woman-jail---despite-MAN.html

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,221

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
And I'm the one with the obsession?
You're fucked in the head. I usually avoid such stories.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,224

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
lol you write your own

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,229

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
But not from experience; there's this little thing called an imagination which presumably niggertypical women have the superior leverage in utilizing.
Of course that was militant feminist propaganda embedded into the autism diagnosis without any objective etiological verification. Now we're finding that, for cerebral laterality and non-verbal abstract tasks, as well as some abstract verbal component sub-set tasks, spergs outscore negrotypicals by about half a standard deviation.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,238

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
So you spend your time thinking of trans women masturbating in front of mirrors? wtf?!

·Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g — 13.1 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,246

@previous (kook !!u4KQvs2JM)
I'm just clairvoyantly speculating what gore and shock-underworldly degeneracy goes on out there.

·kook !!u4KQvs2JM — 13.1 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[T] [B] #295,248

@previous (Dr. Autphag !FaiGWhdD4g)
lol You're brainstorming wank scenarios

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