Topic: Time travel
+Doctor !fnkquv7jY2 — 13.2 years ago #24,430
Does anyone on Tinychan ever seriously dreamt of time travel?+ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.2 years ago, 2 hours later[T] [B] #292,204
astral
+Anonymous C — 13.2 years ago, 45 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,209
+Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.2 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,238
What a load of pseudointellectual waffle.
+Anonymous E — 13.2 years ago, 5 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,360
sK has already done so. No need.
+Anonymous F — 13.2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,371
@292,238 (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)As a person suffering from autism, Autphag doesn't understand the difference between fiction and real life.
·Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM — 13.2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,375
@previous (F)
As a person suffering from autism, I can make the distinction between real maths and meaningless Hollywood squiggles and noise.
As a person suffering from autism, I can make the distinction between real maths and meaningless Hollywood squiggles and noise.
+WhoreosNMilf — 13.2 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,421
@OP
see here: http://www.tinychan.org/topic/11105#reply_148375
note: I now realize I used 'logarithmically' when I meant 'exponentially'.
Furthermore, I failed to recognize and address the ultimate problem with all this. The thing is, time does not actually exist as a natural law. It is simply a measurement based on our perception of existence. In our earlier evolutionary stages, time was simply based on the rising and setting of the sun, because survival dictates that we must find safety before the light disappears, or we will fall victim to predators of animals which are better adapted to see in low-light. As we developed, we learned how to accurately measure time in smaller increments in conjunction with various patterns of animal behavior that enabled us to be better hunters.
What this means for the application of time travel is that it is impossible for an individual to experience backwards time travel because it would actually be a reversal of time, meaning events which happen in the future would (obviously) have not happened yet. But what is often overlooked is that memories cannot exist for events which a person has not experienced, and thus any future knowledge you may have taken back with you is not yet recorded into your brain.
If you were to "slice" time into infinitely small increments, each slice would have an infinite number of possible paths the future could take, based on the actions of every single piece of matter (sentient or not) in existence. So if one were to travel back in time, they could possibly change the future, but that change is the same burden we face at every decision we ever make. Deciding to pluck a loose eyelash is as significant as deciding to push the detonate button for an atomic warhead.
Additionally, because time is simply a construct designed to measure our existence from our perspective, it can only move in one direction from our point of view. For example, if you nod off in the middle of a class lecture and enter a dreamless sleep, when you are awakened, you are disoriented because you have no recollection of the passage of time- because from your mind's perspective, the lack of dream activity meant that your memory was blank and contains no point of reference to measure how long you may have been asleep. When you are awakened from a dream state, your memory is still active, and thus your first reaction is to wonder how long you were asleep compared to the rest of the world. (Of course, you brain is subconsciously aware of the passage of time based on the imprint of the dream being left in your memory. However this is an organic measure of time which does not immediately translate into a useful, quantified number. Thus our programmed reaction is to look for a clock which will tell us how much structured time has passed.
It is this linear nature which inevitably prevents us from technically traveling backwards in time because even if history could move backwards, our perception of it would continue to be recorded as new experiences in our memory, and thus a forward perspective.
see here: http://www.tinychan.org/topic/11105#reply_148375
note: I now realize I used 'logarithmically' when I meant 'exponentially'.
Furthermore, I failed to recognize and address the ultimate problem with all this. The thing is, time does not actually exist as a natural law. It is simply a measurement based on our perception of existence. In our earlier evolutionary stages, time was simply based on the rising and setting of the sun, because survival dictates that we must find safety before the light disappears, or we will fall victim to predators of animals which are better adapted to see in low-light. As we developed, we learned how to accurately measure time in smaller increments in conjunction with various patterns of animal behavior that enabled us to be better hunters.
What this means for the application of time travel is that it is impossible for an individual to experience backwards time travel because it would actually be a reversal of time, meaning events which happen in the future would (obviously) have not happened yet. But what is often overlooked is that memories cannot exist for events which a person has not experienced, and thus any future knowledge you may have taken back with you is not yet recorded into your brain.
If you were to "slice" time into infinitely small increments, each slice would have an infinite number of possible paths the future could take, based on the actions of every single piece of matter (sentient or not) in existence. So if one were to travel back in time, they could possibly change the future, but that change is the same burden we face at every decision we ever make. Deciding to pluck a loose eyelash is as significant as deciding to push the detonate button for an atomic warhead.
Additionally, because time is simply a construct designed to measure our existence from our perspective, it can only move in one direction from our point of view. For example, if you nod off in the middle of a class lecture and enter a dreamless sleep, when you are awakened, you are disoriented because you have no recollection of the passage of time- because from your mind's perspective, the lack of dream activity meant that your memory was blank and contains no point of reference to measure how long you may have been asleep. When you are awakened from a dream state, your memory is still active, and thus your first reaction is to wonder how long you were asleep compared to the rest of the world. (Of course, you brain is subconsciously aware of the passage of time based on the imprint of the dream being left in your memory. However this is an organic measure of time which does not immediately translate into a useful, quantified number. Thus our programmed reaction is to look for a clock which will tell us how much structured time has passed.
It is this linear nature which inevitably prevents us from technically traveling backwards in time because even if history could move backwards, our perception of it would continue to be recorded as new experiences in our memory, and thus a forward perspective.
·Anonymous F — 13.2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,423
@292,375 (Dr. Autphag !fvna3QzWVM)As a person suffering from autism, Autphag believes that anyone who uses the word "seriously" is actually dead serious.
·Doctor !fnkquv7jY2 (OP) — 13.2 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,476
@292,421 (WhoreosNMilf )Mmmm.... you are not thinking 4 dimensionally, so to speak. From what I know, theory of relativity does not prevent time from moving backwards, for instance. What happens to our perception in this case is, of course, a very curious question.
But in case of linear time your thoughts seem to be logical, at least from what I know. Wikipedia does have some good articles.
+Dead !Pool..v42s — 13.2 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #292,544
I am traveling through time always.
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