Topic: On the topic of rape culture...
+Anonymous A — 13.4 years ago #20,875
I came across
this terrible story.
However, the hyper-genderedness of society is a serious problem, and it certainly does encourage psychopathic behavior, but I don't think it does in the case of rape. It's confusing, because our culture seems to be giving men somewhat conflicting cues when it comes to rape. On one hand, it teaches men that sexual aggressiveness and physical dominance are positive things, even in romantic relationships, which could lead down a path of viewing rape as less terrible than you otherwise would have. Yet at the same time it also seems to overplay the intrinsic horror of rape, at least compared to other crimes like murder and torture. In films, rape is consistently portrayed as far more serious than torture or murder, as the latter two can be depicted even in children's films, while the last one guarantees an R rating. It's also in our language - people use phrases like "this test is killing me" or "I almost died from shock" or "this class is torture", yet you hear phrases like "this job is raping me" far less, and even when you do it sounds awkward and there's admonishment that you're being insensitive to rape victims. No one ever says you're being insensitive to murder victims when you say something is killing you. There many other subtle clues our culture gives off that makes me think it takes rape very seriously. Yet there are other factors - the obvious examples are victim-blaming and slut-shaming - that downplay the impact of rape as well. So society's views on it are schizophrenic.
What really breeds psychopathy is our competitive consumer capitalist culture. If you want less psychopaths in the world, targeting that is far more important. I just have a hard time believing claims that our culture - even subtly - teaches ten year old boys that it's acceptable to coldly and methodically concoct a seven-step plan to brutally rape and murder a female classmate because she was rude. Culture really doesn't view this as any way acceptable. The problem here is neurology and (maybe) parenting. Not some agenda which wants to label problems under umbrella terms but rather actually focuses on individual personal rather than the boogeymen 'demons' of society.
+The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later[T] [B] #252,567
@OP
> jezebel.com
Didn't click, lol.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,570
@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)
I'm arguing against some of its messages, actually.
·The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 13.4 years ago, 45 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,572
@previous (A)
Your argument was tl;dr though.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,574
@previous (The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY)
It's cool, bud.
tl;dr this misappropriation of terms is absurd.
+Sunny !iDV4xQqGmk — 13.4 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,577
+Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 25 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,605
People are often very sympathetic to murder victims and their families, and very cruel to rape victims. Rape happens way more common than murder, and politicians go on tv and say that rape is a gift from god. They never say that about murder.
·Sunny — 13.4 years ago, 51 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,606
@previous (D)
Well they should start. Murder is a gift from god.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,608
@252,605 (D)
Many glorify the death penalty so I think you are mistaken.
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,616
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 18 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,618
@252,608 (A)
What do you even mean by that? You count criminals being punished as the same thing as a random person being rapped or killed?
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·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,623
@previous (D)
It's just one example. Many of them are also fine with mass murdering brown children in foreign countries with missiles.
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 6 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,629
@previous (A)
But what about whites? They dont go on television and say that murdering white men is gods gift. Also, when that Sandusky thing blew up, many people blamed the little boy victims. Would they have been blamed if Sandusky had murdered them?
·The Doctor !7MHPahvoGY — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,630
@252,618 (D)
@252,623 (A)
Oh look, it's another of those threads where OP has a conversation with himself for some reason.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 32 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,631
@252,629 (D)
Who are these 'many people' that you speak of?
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 10 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #252,636
@previous (A)
You never paid attention during the trial? These things were uttered by lawyers, friends of the pedo, and the general public.
Look at those pervy Catholics priests. They were protected and enabled to commit sex crimes. Would it have been that way if people were being murdered instead?
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #252,638
@previous (D)
You're using hypotheticals in order to minimize the issue of what was originally being said. They're strawman arguments.
That being said, the real problem worth addressing is at the center of the family's health history, be it medical or how they operate as parents. Trying to blame some abstract concept like "rape culture" is ignoring the real problem itself but rather some kind of made-up agenda which is the same tactic that politicians use in the same excuse as "Because it's God's will".
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #252,639
@previous (A)
No I'm not, I'm citing real world examples. Lets look at non capitalist countries. Are they all less violent? Do they have less rape?
Also, rape culture is not the cause of rape, but just a term that's used to describe society that encourages sex abuse.
·Anonymous A (OP) — 13.4 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #252,640
@previous (D)
Not according to this article I just posted. This is what many feminists believe.
·Anonymous D — 13.4 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #252,641
@previous (A)
What she said was that it was scary how such young children could already be influenced by rape culture. Meaning how our abuse enabling society has affected these children, and make them think that doing something like this is okay.
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