Topic: My father is probably going to die.

+Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq — 13.5 years ago #19,087

Okay, so I'm in the emergency center because my Dad had a heart attack, this is number 3 for him. Yikes!

+On !Uvm54ORbmo — 13.5 years ago, 43 seconds later[T] [B] #233,607

How do you feel now?

+Anonymous C — 13.5 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[T] [B] #233,608

Does he smoke, drink, have a history of heart disease or have an unhealthy diet?

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,609

@233,607 (On !Uvm54ORbmo)
Okay, I'm having to reassure my mom, and my sister, and my mom is all out of sorts so I'm having to take charge a bit, but I'm fine.

@previous (C)
Yes, all of those. He's had 2 heart attacks before this, he smokes, and eats unhealthily, lots of caffeine for example. His Dad died of a heart attack, so did his grandfather.

+Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,612

@previous (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
have you been able to see him yet?

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,614

@previous (D)
Not yet, no. My mom is seeing him, and there's only 1 at a time allowed.

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,615

@previous (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
I'm so sorry that this is happening. How old is he?

+fullmouthextraction !2CQezZ7g6I — 13.5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,616

I'm so sorry :( I lost my father when I was 17. Do not give up hope, please. And let us know how he is doing when you receive an update!

+Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,618

@233,609 (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
No worries. Modern medicine has heart replacement everything or even a Kosher Pig valve. On the other hand with the past two, and if he kept on smoking? Perhaps he wants to commit suicide by bad habits?

I mean if he wants to go is is ok with you?

+Anonymous G — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,619

@previous (Syntax )
you're a bit of an asshole

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,622

@233,618 (Syntax )
That wasnt pleasant.

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,623

@233,615 (D)
47, and it's okay.

@233,616 (fullmouthextraction !2CQezZ7g6I)
Okay, I'm sorry you lost your dad.

@233,618 (Syntax )
He's not comitting suicide, don't be stupid.

Update: He died momentarily, but they brought him back to life. Things are looking not good.

(Edited 28 seconds later.)

·fullmouthextraction !2CQezZ7g6I — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,624

@233,618 (Syntax )
congrats on winning all around the worst

·fullmouthextraction !2CQezZ7g6I — 13.5 years ago, 22 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,625

@233,623 (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
Omg :(

·Anonymous C — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,626

Man, shit really hit the fan with your life as of late.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 51 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,627

@233,619 (G)
Yea I can be at tymes but I was in this case with my reply not trying to be such.

Odds are in total favor of Docs patching him up and consider that Docs like buying new boats and 3rd homes. He is of no value if he dies. He is worth a small fortune when they get him to live.

Web says
What are the odds on surviving a 3rd heart attack?

Answer:
It all depends upon the severity of the injury. If it is a mild infarction, and relatively little cardiac muscle is affected, then the odds are quite good. If it is a massive myocardial infarction, then the odds would be quite poor.

Do not read beyond this if you are not willing to read what could hurt

Ask Experts » Doctors » Cardiology »
For how many years can a heart patient survive after third heart attack?

Date: 08 Apr 2011 Group: Doctors Category: Cardiology

how many years can a heart patient survive after third heart attack ?

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Author: Dr.P.Ramachandran 25 Apr 2011 Member Level: Silver Points : 0 Voting Score: 0
Few seconds! I think you have wrongly typed the question. By third attack person will die.

Author: Uttam Yadav 26 Apr 2011
There is no guarantee of a person's life after the third attack. It is rare that anyone can survive the third attack. Even if a person survives the third attack, he will always be at the risk of heart-failure any second in his life post his third-attack.

My grandfather was lucky enough to survive for 9 years after his third attack. He had his third attack in 1992 and passed away in 2001. His doctor had told, even if he survived, he will always be at a risk of heart failure. When he died, he was having his lunch normally. Put a morsel in his mouth and just left in that same sitting posture.

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Yet I KNOW a number of people men and women who made it past the three and are still doing just fine - Of course they will die as we all will one day

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,629

@233,623 (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
Question - After his first heart attack did he stop smoking?

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[T] [B] #233,632

@233,627 (Syntax )
I'm not mad at you nor do I really think you're being mean.

@233,626 (C)
Yeah, a little bit.

@previous (Syntax )
He still smokes.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[T] [B] #233,638

@previous (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
> I'm not mad at you nor do I really think you're being mean.

Most excellent because I was home the day my dad had his first and I sure damn well know #3 does not mean the end. He did not smoke but then again my mom did and that 2nd hand smoke effected my lungs. Found out after a mountain climb to over 20,000 feet with exam that the damage to my lungs was what it was. So it could be that my dad living with mom so much longer ended up much like a smoker.

He was overweight but diet was basically ok except a Jewish diet like eating chicken fat is not so good. After#1 I got him to switch doctors and WE got him to start walking every day and cut out the bad fats.

Weight dropped way down. #2 &3 were genetic related to clogging of pipes which is my family trait. My pipes were clogged as well when checked nor did I want the slice n dice dad had so I hit the books at UCLA Med library and changed diet and hit pool for laps daily - Now running and dancing at aerobic levels. Pipes total clean so it can be reversed with hard work and change of more better diet.

But if all goes well and he continues to smoke? Odds aint so good. Hope you dont and I truly hope your dad gets well so he can kick your ass and get you to move on.

+ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,712

nothing makes me rage as much as my unhealthy parent. my mother is so unhealthy and loves her cigs and i dont wana be around when shes slowly dying in a hospital cos she loves smoking so much /: well if she loves smoking so much she can just have that as she dies kthx. and ill be somewhere else. this bothers me.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,718

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)

Parents subject the babies who grow up as if they were smokers. Cars with windows rolled up just a horrible way to raise kids. All that exercise I do does make my lungs function re oxygen intake. I take in 30% more then regular people BUT when it comes to getting rid of the CO2 I am far below normal. No amount of anything I do can change that long term 2nd hand smoke damage.

Now for your health let me repeat this message.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,721

@previous (Syntax )
i cant sleep my bladder is full n my cats harrassing me ! and ur scaring me! 2nd hand smoke will permenantly screw my lungs??? cmon i dont deserve this e_e

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,723

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
eye no this will cum as a shock 2 ya but what gets full needs to empty. Plus if u don't u are asking for trouble by holding back. Solve two problems at one tyme.

Pee on cat. Sorry about the info on smoke and the only way you can find out is a very simple test you can get. Small device - lips to a tube and you blow as hard as you can and a few steps and they can tell you in seconds about how well your lungs function. In the mean tyme its a good excuse to excuse yourself around mom when in a small area.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,730

@previous (Syntax )
oh that thing, when i blow on it the doctors alwsys tell me i have awesome lung capacity. but idk why cos im dealing with 2nd hand smoke all my life/:

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,735

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Well dang and I have awesome lung capacity+++ but not when it cums to getting rid of the waste product C02 and some simple devices only measure your intake so call that doc office and ask if he measured the output as well and recorded it.

+Anonymous I — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,738

Syntax you are a bit of a weirdo. Please stop.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,739

@previous (I)
OK I will stop in exactttttttly 4 mins is dat good nuff for ya?

·Anonymous I — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,741

@previous (Syntax )
No.

+Anonymous J — 13.5 years ago, 23 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,743

If he dies, will you do a... postmortem? YEEEEEAHH!

+Anonymous K — 13.5 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,747

@previous (J)
queer.

·Anonymous J — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,748

@previous (K)
Hi, Postmortem posting under new id.

·Anonymous K — 13.5 years ago, 44 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,755

@previous (J)
wrong.

+Erik N — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,756

@233,748 (J)

> Hi, Postmortem posting under new id.

You're a fuckin muppet.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,758

@233,738 (I)
@233,735 (Syntax )
actually syntax that was nice ima ask my doc about this when i see him

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,766

@233,743 (J)
Do you mean complain on mc/tc? Yes, I probably will.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 4 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,816

@previous (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
How about an update?

·Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq (OP) — 13.5 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,842

@previous (Syntax )
He's alive in CCU right now.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,851

@previous (Postmortem !!QyjvQmlKq)
Excellent and while you are in contact with his doctor and there are a few minutes here or there ask the Doc about yourself. I did and that few minutes led THEE to a life changing life style which I am more then happy with. My daily endorphin rush is one hell of an added bonus to my enjoyment of life.

Also b4 I forget. When my dad was in recovery from #1 the guy in the other bed was only 24 with his 1st. And for a few who think they may be physically fit?

Jim Fixx - Runner who sold millions of books; The Complete Book of Running. He is credited with helping start America's fitness revolution, popularizing the sport of running and demonstrating the health benefits of regular jogging.

IQ Good for Mensa - Fixx started running in 1967 at age 35. He weighed 240 pounds (110 kg) and smoked two packs of cigarettes per day. Ten years later, when his book, The Complete Book of Running (which spent 11 weeks at No. 1 on the best-seller list) was published, he was 60 pounds (27 kg) lighter and smoke-free. In his books and on television talk shows, he extolled the benefits of physical exercise and how it considerably increased the average life expectancy.

Fixx died at age 52 of a fulminant heart attack, after his daily run on Vermont Route 15 in Hardwick. The autopsy revealed that atherosclerosis had blocked one coronary artery 95%, a second 85%, and a third 70%. Although comedians remarked on the irony of dying while exercising.

Fixx never had tyme for breakfast and loaded up on donuts - at a high fat based diet that jammed up his pipes.

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,855

@previous (Syntax )
didnt he also invent a pair of really crappy running shoes?

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,862

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Don't have a clue. Some company probably gave him $250,000 to have name stamped on a shoe. I keep buying this brand and that and still end up placing a bit of mole skin here and there and for sure the heel ends are constantly in need of serious mole skin, because I wear out that heal part in just a couple 3 weeks.

Then Nike or adidas or Rockport changes the design a bit and wot was almost puuurfect is no longer worth my tyme.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,863

@previous (Syntax )
ever try mminimilist shoes, or whatever its called? or barefoot running?

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 17 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,879

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
I'm pretty sure that they got sued for making false claims.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,883

@233,863 (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
About 4-5 tymes a year I end up messing my foot up a bit during rock climbing. Minor this or that which makes it a week 12 days before its healed nuff to run with shoes on.

I am in2 this ADD not miss a day thing no matter wot (about 25 days from a full 3.5 years of not missing a single day) So and this I do enjoy - I go barefoot into edge of the tide and of course that colder water helps keep the bruise from hurting. In high tide situations, I do NOT try and do a full 10 miles because that wood be more like the equiv of 20 or so. I just make sure I spend the same amount of tyme so I get my aerobic in.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 27 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,902

@233,879 (D)
they? all companies that make minimilist shoes? wtf

@previous (Syntax )
only barefoot when your foots injured?

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,904

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Many of them have been slapped with lawsuits from the FDA for making unverified health claims.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,915

@previous (D)
then why dont all the running shoes with the extra heel padding and "air" or "gel" fillings or whatever get sued????

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,922

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Sometimes they do, but only if they make false health claims. Remember those shoes with the rounded bottoms, that were supposed to help tone your butt or something? They were sued.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,938

@previous (D)
oh they were? thats good.

ah well. supposed to go running barefoot!

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,944

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
With flat feet, that might not be a great idea.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,948

@previous (D)
meh. i thought that strengthened the arch thing?

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 49 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,949

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
It can make your ankles turn in, and also give you bunions.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,954

@previous (D)
bare foot running?????????? or having flat feet?

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,956

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Having flat feet, and also not having adequate arch support.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,961

@previous (D)
I gotta strengthen the arch some howwwwww

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,965

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
maybe look into some physical therapy, and shoe inserts.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,969

@previous (D)
shoe inserts totally suck, bullshit, they dont expect to fix you, and they also make it hard to buy new shoes :( i should look into physical therapy

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 57 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,972

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
You should. Do you have a lot of foot pain?

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,980

@previous (D)
depends. if i spend the day walking they get painful by the end of the day. or if i over do the running in crappy shoes - which is why i want to try running barefoot, cos im not up to trying a bunch of trial and errors on a million running shoes and spend tons of money and never find what im looking for

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 40 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,981

Yea some say barefoot is more better. Thing is I doubt it wood work for me long run. Whoa UN-intentional pun.

When I do the limited bare foot in my Ocean a Blue water, I have to have eyes down as to avoid ROCKS - The beach is loaded with shells and a mussel shell is sharp and native Indians used them to cut stuff.

Rocks on sand as well as people who leave a bit of broken glass. One of my best gal friends who lives minutes from me, stepped on a Sting Ray. Another friend stepped on a beached Man of War.

Add to that are the few trails I run up and down on to add to a variation of views from the top of bluffs to bottom of beach. Bluffs are loaded with a Cactus that local Mexican's eat as a vegetable. Nopales.

Will show in a 2nd image. Fruits really good in a Margarita and 2eat albeit its got almost as many seeds in it as it has pulp. Even with shoes on occasion a needle will penetrate the shoe which is is is HURTS.

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 16 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,982

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,985

@233,980 (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
What type of shoes do you usually wear?

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #233,996

@previous (D)
lol...random crappy runningshoes i found in the closet i bought years ago which dont fit well. i dont have proper running shoe. i guess when the warmer weather comes i gotta try barefoot

@233,981 (Syntax )
WELL its best to go barefoot running in nice field of grass dont you think?

·Anonymous D — 13.5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #234,004

@previous (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Good luck, and I hope that you dont injure your toes.

·ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY — 13.5 years ago, 33 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #234,042

@previous (D)
thanks :P

·Syntax — 13.5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[T] [B] #234,050

@233,996 (ducky !LZ0E5ojVGY)
Fields of grass. Actually reminds me of a place I used to hike a bunch in Malibu area of LA CA.

Running down a hill in fields of wild flowers with group of friends in total nakkid n includes bare feet. Don't think I can think of a place around here to do such. Nakkid yes re a Nude beach just a very few miles on my beach but South. Blacks beach. Hummmmmmmm Grass as in fields here probably not.

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